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[โ€“] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Ashoka converted to Buddhism because of his experiences with war, and only did so after conflicts ended. I'm not sure this would really count as spreading Buddhism with violence, but I get that it's a bit like violence which resulted in an emperor taking power who later converted to Buddhism, so Buddhism is getting second-hand benefits from the violence that was committed before (though not to spread Buddhism directly, the way colonialism spread Christianity through violence directly).

And yes, I think the contemporary sectarian violence is a good example of Buddhist violence, though I'm not as familiar with historical examples.

And yes again, Westerners have a poor concept of Buddhism, it's a religion like any other - it was a sect of Hinduism, and has its own complicated cosmology and beliefs that are broadly incompatible with science. There are Buddhist modernist apologists (see: What the Buddha Taught by Walpola Rahula) who argue that the historical Buddha did teach a belief system that is compatible with contemporary Western beliefs, but this relies on cherry-picking and ignoring the majority of what Buddhism actually is in the world, i.e. it fabricates a new kind of Buddhism from a narrow selection of scripture. It's mostly a response to colonialism and a form of assimilation that tries to take the upper hand, and a rather successful one in that it has played a role in Buddhism being uncritically adopted in the West, especially by psychologists, scientists, and industry (like Jon Kabat-Zinn's Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction, which claims to be secular while promoting Buddhist soteriological goals).

Can you imagine if a "secularized" version of Christian prayer was being promoted to treat insomnia, depression, stress, etc., that is essentially what's going on currently.

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[โ€“] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

to my somewhat limited understanding... didn't Ashoka stop the conquest of his neighbors more because his empire was getting too big to manage anyways- spending more time putting down the inevitable rebellions rather than invading new places. Remember, few places ever truly forget they were subjugated.

Regardless, his conversion happened after, and Buddhism definitely benefited from his prior conquest as he built shitloads of temples everywhere to "enlighten" the normies. perhaps it is my own bias, but I'm doubting that the people converting didn't feel at least some coercion to it.