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My mother, born, raised, and still lives in Norway, was anti-mask during COVID and refused to take the vaccine because of micro-robots (and the scary 5G towers), so we all know where she stands in certain topics. She also believes that Zelenskyy is the reason for Russia invading Ukraine...

Anyhoo, I was talking to her then other day, and she told me that I need to stop reading anti-propaganda. I laughed and asked if she could explain it, which she, of course, could not, but she said it's a wording being used online all the time. I don't frequent the sites she does, and I've known she's been reading conspiracies for at least 10 years, but anti-propaganda? Does words not have meaning anymore?

If you ask me, anti-propaganda is facts, but hey, I might be wrong, considering English is my second language.

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[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 13 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Technically, no propaganda of any sort at all.

Counter propaganda or anti-propaganda is just differently angled propaganda. You cannot fix propaganda with more propaganda.

If you want to understand your mom, you need to see or read what she sees. Just telling her she is wrong is not going to help. Repeating that she is wrong is jot g9ing to help.

Plus as an adult that she is, you might not be able to dissuade her. Perhaps, you may have to simply not touch the topic when with her.

When I was younger, I naively used to think that if I had the facts or Academic papers or research to prove point XYZ on side l, that I would be able to argue valiantly against some people I used to know. Ha, I was so silly. I could literally point or give the proof to my arguments on a silver platter, down to page numbers or exact quotes, and people would simply not even bother to read them, because they were certain they were right. Some people just want to be Right, not Correct. Due to such worldviews being driven not by fact but by emotion. Fear, anger, bias, lies by omission, but usually peppered with some facts here and there, etc.

Trying to change them, will just end up in damaging your current bonds. Do you want to risk that? Maybe over time. But just focus mostpy on what you have and enjoy the time you have, over spending it arguing. Life is short enough as it is.

[–] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The Street Epistemology approach could be useful in situations like this

[–] Acamon@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SalmiakDragon@feddit.nu 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This looks genuinely great, thanks for mentioning it. Here's their website, with free learning resources.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Going to start this course today actually, didn't realise