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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah. To the exact extent and for the same reasons.

BOTH SIDES, GUYS! I'M SO EDGY!

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Nothing happens overnight, and it's not being edgy to point out how we got here. Bush got us accustomed to an unending wat on, "terrorism," Obama used drones to target terrorists in any nation without national approval, and now Trump will deport protesters for aiding terrorism and bomb Yemen over signal.

Bush attacked the Press for, "giving aid and comfort," to our enemies, Obama prosecuted leakers and publishers under the Espionage Act, and now Trump will openly bully publications he doesn't like with frivolous lawsuits and threats of prosecution. History didn't start in January.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Obama was a good president.

His only mistake was not being more brutal to the proto-Maga trash when he had the chance.

But he mistakenly thought they were just concerned Americans, and not monsters pining for Jim Crow.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

It's not my place to tell you how to feel about Obama. He was certainly competent and effective in many ways, and if you feel that makes him, "good," fine. However, he used drones to assassinate American citizens, he created an opaque drone warfare program that Congress has no oversight over, and he prosecuted more people under the Espionage Act than all other presidents combined, none of whom were actual spies.

Whether you believe he was justified in these actions or not, they have downstream consequences, all of which benefit Trump. When Obama criticizes Trunp for attacking journalists, it is more than fair to point out that hypocrisy. We have an authoritarian president right now, and if we're ever going to take back power from him, we've got to acknowledge how we got here and take corrective action.

he created an opaque drone warfare program that Congress has no oversight over,

you're telling me the congress, and the rest of the federal government has NO check OR balance against any of this? Seems unlikely.

Smells to me like the US federal government just doesn't want to do it's fucking job. On account of the fact that we hired the stupidest people in the room for it.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

His mistake was not using his popularity to absolutely brutalized the vile trash of the south.

Being kind to the monsters is the same mistake we made in the 1800s that lead us here after a century of Jim Crow.