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The Jewish People Policy Institute Israel Index survey found that 8 out of 10 Jewish Israelis agreed with Trump's proposal of expelling Palestinians from Gaza.

Forty-three percent of all Israelis said that the expulsion plan was "practical" and should be implemented, while 30 percent said the plan was "desirable" but not practical.

A minority of 13 percent - made of up 54 percent of Palestinian respondents and just three percent of Jewish Israelis - described the Trump plan as "immoral".

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago (9 children)

The shit? The pioneers of fascism—Hitler and Mussolini—appealed to the Enlightenment-era ideologies of race and nationalism a lot more than they appealed to religion, and Ben Gurion was an atheist. Then in modern Israel you have liberal Jews and ultraorthodox Jews, who are both equally supportive of the genocide of Palestinians for Lebensraum (though liberal Jews are more likely to prioritize getting the hostages back). MAGA is also built on nationalism, race ideology and a notion of a "great America", with religion only taking an auxiliary role. Again, fascism and Zionism were invented in and keep being practiced by the least religious region in the world; don't make this the fault of religion because it's quite obviously not. Religion isn't the cause of everything you don't like. Y'all invented this shit so own it.

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee -2 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Religion isn't the cause of everything you don't like.

Never said it was. And I didn't say religion was the source of fascism either.

Don't excuse religion's faults; it has been used to cause massive amounts of human suffering. Yes, it can be a positive tool. But it's a tool that has a well documented history of repression and violence.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And of course, instead of solving underlying issues, we should just blame and ban surface level problems so that nothing ever changes.

Religion is just a tool, not a cause. The cause of all the problems you quote are ego and power-mongering. Those things twist anything they touch, not just religion.

The solution is not more vapid reactionism.

[–] GreyAlien@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

fucking thank you

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