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The Jewish People Policy Institute Israel Index survey found that 8 out of 10 Jewish Israelis agreed with Trump's proposal of expelling Palestinians from Gaza.

Forty-three percent of all Israelis said that the expulsion plan was "practical" and should be implemented, while 30 percent said the plan was "desirable" but not practical.

A minority of 13 percent - made of up 54 percent of Palestinian respondents and just three percent of Jewish Israelis - described the Trump plan as "immoral".

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[–] forrgott@lemm.ee -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Religion isn't the cause of everything you don't like.

Never said it was. And I didn't say religion was the source of fascism either.

Don't excuse religion's faults; it has been used to cause massive amounts of human suffering. Yes, it can be a positive tool. But it's a tool that has a well documented history of repression and violence.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And of course, instead of solving underlying issues, we should just blame and ban surface level problems so that nothing ever changes.

Religion is just a tool, not a cause. The cause of all the problems you quote are ego and power-mongering. Those things twist anything they touch, not just religion.

The solution is not more vapid reactionism.

[–] GreyAlien@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

fucking thank you

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Religion's usefulness is way overestimated. It's a crutch.

And what solution? Religion? Yeah, hell no.

And it's pathetically ironic seeing a zealous reactionary projecting so predictably.

Blow it out your ass, for all I care. ~(つˆ0ˆ)つ。☆

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Crutches are useful tools. Do you advocate that someone who's broken/sprained limbs to just suck it up and walk it off? That's needlessly toxic.

Religion is not a solution, and I never said otherwise. I said it was a tool, nothing more or less. It's effectiveness as a tool is questionable, I agree.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago

This makes them unfortunately well suited for fascist takeover.

-You. This whole conversation is also about fascism. The proposition that religion is fertile ground for fascism is simply not supported historically.

Yes, it can be a positive tool. But it's a tool that has a well documented history of repression and violence.

Yes, but not under fascism. That's what I'm trying to say here. Screw the Crusades, post-Reformation wars, the modern Iranian regime and the Taliban, but that shit has nothing to do with fascism. Religion and fascism (which is a form of state religion) are actively competing ideas.