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    Linux is too hard (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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    The indoctrination of windows is extreme. Windows is just as hard as linux, harder even with all the layers of obscurity.

    And yet... linux is hard, and users decry RTFM as "not growing the userbase"

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    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    I don’t agree with the full stop. Eliminating nuance is rarely good. Most tasks an IT professional will execute will be done several times a month, so memorizing the tar command options might be useful if that’s something they do all the time. But demanding that a person is proficient with the CLI as a way to prove familiarity with how things work under the hood is just fallacious.

    I coded in vim and we built our own makefiles to deploy our code into our proprietary microcontroller. We also used JTAG to connect gdb with the microcontroller, and not even the guy that coded the JTAG interface would be able to write JTAG commands by hand.

    [–] foggy@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

    I disagree entirely.

    Abstraction away from what is happening never adds value in the long run.

    Full stop.

    Vibe coders be damned.

    [–] murtaza64@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    So you write out all your commands as machine code I assume? wait no, obviously you set the transistor state manually with an electron gun?

    [–] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    You need people who can read and debug machine code and dig through hex and binary in cybersecurity.

    I use ghidra and IDA pro literally every week. And if you don't know how to use hexdump, you shouldnt be using those tools in the job.

    Binary exploitation is common.

    So no, but you literally should be able to read machine code, and parse hex/binary in my field.

    100%.

    [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

    There's no relationship between UI and vibe coding.

    Full stop

    [–] foggy@lemmy.world -5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Okay good luck debugging difficult to describe edge cases.

    I'm not gonna continue to argue with you. Suffice to say, I wouldn't hire you.

    Cheers.

    [–] monarch@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    You come across as somebody that would be hell to work for.

    Full stop.

    [–] foggy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    🀷 my team has fun. Sucks to suck I guess.

    [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    "My team doesn't feel comfortable being open with me out of fear of retaliation"

    People don't have fun at work dummy, catch a hint.

    [–] foggy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

    Lmao where the hell did you get that take away?

    Do you, man.

    [–] LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Yeah, I always use GIMP from the command line, it's just faster.