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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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Design of next socio-economic system (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 month ago by testman@lemmy.ml to c/collapse@lemm.ee

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Are there any projects that are working on the design of some potential socio-economic / political systems, which could be used after collapse of the current system?

It seems like it would be good idea to design potential system beforehand, instead of quickly slapping one together under pressure of societal chaos.
And designing one from the start would allow for introduction of various features, which would be hard to implement by applying modifications to current system.
Features like some built-in mitigation of various kinds of corruption. Some increased flexibility for quick response to the exploitation of loopholes. Stuff like that.

Post any relevant links or resources.

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[–] fake_meows@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There are some community currencies that allow time/hour exchanges / banking / bartering. I think an explicit idea of these systems is to allow for a local area to strengthen/harden its resources and community. For example someone can help watch children but get a home improvement in return...the ways that these exchanges work all invest in the community.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_community_currencies_in_the_United_States

Another one that comes to mind is/was the Occupy movement. Particularly in the emergency response to hurricane Sandy, Occupy actually took on providing the services of government and was more effective than the real government agencies that were distributing aid.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Sandy

Quite a few intentional communities have tried to become a test tube / model for a greater reorganization of society.

Here is a mini documentary about a large intentional community...the founder speaks about how they navigated all the administrative and legal hurdles. They also talk about how the governance works.

https://youtu.be/n-uH36w9xg8

In general, I think that all systems transform when they are replaced. If there was an alternative option then I think the bigger system could fall away, but actually I think thats unlikely to be possible until collapse is well under way. A major feature of the current paradigm is that it's a comprehensive global system -- the bigness and all encompassing capitalism would be hard to come up with an alternative for...and basically if there is a new system where you can't get a widget from a foreign land where you don't know anybody and dont have that currency and dont speak the language, that system makes our lives harder. Our current system does that with zero effort now.