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Democratic capitalism (capitalism + democracy) alongside a strong and efficient social welfare system is what I personally adhere to.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think folks are loathe to the idea their just aren't jobs that allow for that anymore and if they did they don't provide an equitable enough deal to make it desireable. If folks got promoted by working hard then folks would value it now but it does not happen. All that wraps into the american dream. Honestly I don't think the police were valued over firemen or emts.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

If folks got promoted by working hard then folks would value it now but it does not happen

Hence why they loathe it.

Honestly I don’t think the police were valued over firemen or emts.

Things like The Andy Griffith Show seems to suggest otherwise.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If one show is proof then my counter argument would be emergency.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That's a nearly 50 year old show. Not exactly the best choice.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Which one. Andy griffith or emergency?

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry i misread the description of emergency. Let me start over.

Emergency showing how boomers value other emergency services doesn't negate the point that they value the police, whereas newer generations tend to reject the police.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

yeah im just saying one show does not mean anything. heck andy griffith was more a small town show than a cop show. The town was so small that the sherrifs office was one of the few public services in the area. It was more akin to little house on the prarie. I mean going the opposite we have blue bloods, chicago p.d, swat, fbi, the rookie, oncall are all recent cop shows but we also have 911, chicago fire, station 19. I would say cop vs general emergency responder vs hospital/doctor show ratios are not that different today than back when boomers were the main television audience. Those types of shows were always popular structures to run dramas from. Both I would say have about the same on private eye type stuff although there was a period. sometime around the original fantasy island I would say. were there was an unusually large amount of private eye ones for some reason.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

yeah im just saying one show does not mean anything.

Nor have I said so. I was giving an example of how the boomers have valued cops, and how they view them.

heck andy griffith was more a small town show than a cop show

Sure, but the underlying effect and message of the show was "hey cops are the good guys, they'll look out for your family"

I would say cop vs general emergency responder vs hospital/doctor show ratios are not that different today than back when boomers were the main television audience

That's far better argument. Though I'd say it still misses the mark because even modern cop shows are still meant for an older group. Gen Z isn't watching those shows. The closest is Brooklyn 99, which is closer to pornography than reality, or an attempt at reality. There's also true crime, but often the value there is morbid curiosity, not "cops are good".

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago

I mean boomers were not necessarily watching the shows at that time. Its possible it was more silent generation or greatest generation. I mean I don't know but also who watches what now is abit skewed due to all the options. Streaming stuff was not until post 2k, flicks by mail were late 90's so before that was just broadcast, cable, and video shows and that came in the 80's. Before that was just broadcast. Its one reason everyone knows friends and seinfeld because it was still in the time were nearly everyone watched what was broadcast and if they missed it they could tape it.