Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

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[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

Just don’t be a woman on Lemmy.

Sure, most people won’t downvote or harass you just for being a woman (a lot will.. we didn’t get the best of Reddit at all, and I doubt the new adoptees are any better…) but they will often enough make things difficult even if they aren’t actively causing problems.

But men of Lemmy (aka the vast majority of the user base since they ran off all the womenfolk) don’t care. They see that as quality control or some dumb shit, because THEY aren’t interested in woman things, so nobody should be, or they think their “as a man” comments should be important or some shit... Whatever the post is about. If it doesn’t cater to them, it can fuck right off.

Which is why cis women make up <10% of the Lemmy side of the fediverse. It’s a disaster for women here.

But I wonder how long you’ve been here. Most of the posts of this nature are from very new accounts and they don’t know the problems yet…

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

I know multiple IRL women who don’t share your complaints about Lemmy. Maybe people are shitty to you because you’re shitty to them.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 6 points 2 hours ago

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I (as a cis guy) haven't seen anything againt women. Do you have any examples?

[–] Deathray5@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 hours ago

"Which is why cis women make up <10% of the Lemmy side of the fediverse. It’s a disaster for women here."

I mean I can believe that since it's based off of Reddit but do you have a source for that?

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 8 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I've not had a problem here, do you have examples of this? Not saying it does not exist, more curious as I've found this space a lot kinder than reddit.

[–] amos@mander.xyz 17 points 9 hours ago

Is this really the case? I find this unexpected. Lemmy seems to be friendly to the LGBTQ people, namely trans.

If what you say is true, we should probably address it somehow.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

The downvotes prove your point. This topic needs more discussion, but most of the times when women bring this up, their comments get downvoted to hell. It's quite a "gotcha" for someone to ask to see "examples" when most of the examples we've come across or created will be buried or have since been deleted.

Alternative question - for those that don't believe this is an issue, when is the last time you came across a post on Lemmy that is specifically for/about women or women's issues (especially one posted from a woman's perspective)? Or even better, go ahead and make such a post. Watch how fast the downvotes come.

I expect this comment to be downvoted the same way as the parent comment was, the same way that past posts I've made and read about women's issues have been downvoted on Lemmy. If men want this place to be inclusive for women, they have to do their part to support us - not downvoting our concerns, simply because they don't experience the same issues, is the absolute bare minimum. Otherwise, why would we keep posting/commenting about our issues when doing so invites a downvote cascade?

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

No, the downvotes are because nobody was victimizing her here but she went off on a rant and called me horrible things that I don’t deserve to be called. Sexism can go in any direction and I don’t tolerate any of it.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

I just got downvoted for asking for an example of this. I have been using Lemmy quite a bit in the last month (way more than I should) and I have never come across what you're talking about. I might be wrong, I haven't seen all the posts created on Lemmy, that is why I'm asking for an example.

If I make the claim that 4chan is full of racist, nazi fucks, that is easy to verify and provide examples of in a few minutes. Similarly, the burden of proof should be on the one making the claim.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 4 points 6 hours ago

Alternative question - for those that don't believe this is an issue, when is the last time you came across a post on Lemmy that is specifically for/about women or women's issues (especially one posted from a woman's perspective)? Or even better, go ahead and make such a post. Watch how fast the downvotes come.

I'm not going to say it isn't a problem, but this was just the other day and while engagement could have been better it didn't seem to be met with downvotes and pushback.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Any examples of this? It sounds terrible and should be addressed.