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What’s a common health myth that needs to go away already? (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 1 day ago by Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de to c/ask@lemm.ee

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[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 5 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

There are reliable nonsurgical ways to lose weight long term.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23859104/ just the abstract, but basically most people can't sustain a 5 % loss over 3 years with most regaining the weight and some adding additional weight.

Even the studies that claim long term success have to use shorter time-frames:

https://ajcn.nutrition.org/article/S0002-9165(23)29536-2/fulltext

The above one defines successful long term weight loss as 10% reduction after one year with about a 20% success rate. To put this in perspective, a 300 pound person in a weight loss success if they get to 270 and stay there for a year.

To maintain their weight loss, members report engaging in high levels of physical activity (≈1 h/d), eating a low-calorie, low-fat diet, eating breakfast regularly, self-monitoring weight, and maintaining a consistent eating pattern across weekdays and weekends.

An hour of physical activity every single day on a reduced calorie diet sounds miserable. That's your life, it revolves around finding time to both do an hour of serious exercise and planning what you eat.

Only replies with citations from reputable journals will be taken seriously. The plural of anecdote is not data.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You might want to reword your first sentence because it makes it sound like it's a health myth that it's possible to lose weight without surgery.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 1 points 9 hours ago

Nope, you read that correctly. There is no current proven nonsurgical method for people to lose and keep off significant weight long term. The meta study I linked had to minimize the amount lost and the timespan to get positive results. Citations to the contrary are welcome. Anything aside from citations is not.

Bonus article: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10541056/

From the abstract:

Over the past three decades, researchers have found that biopsychosocial factors determine weight gain much more than personal choices and responsibility.

[–] descent_into_ruin@lemm.ee 3 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

It’s about making healthy lifestyle decisions that fit into your day-to-day schedule. I get an hour of exercise a day just by riding my bike to work, and the reason I’m able to do that is my main criteria for buying a house was living in a walkable neighborhood and being able to ride my bike to work.

Not having time to exercise is a symptom of not living in a walkable neighborhood.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It might be difficult to find a study about that. Hopefully someone can provide one.

(I am personally convinced it's true, but indeed anecdotal evidence is no proof)

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 1 points 9 hours ago

Also, it's not about healthy lifestyle decisions: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10541056/

From the abstract:

Over the past three decades, researchers have found that biopsychosocial factors determine weight gain much more than personal choices and responsibility.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 2 points 19 hours ago

This does not contain a citation. It does contain a solution that doesn't work for the majority of people. Please try again.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 20 hours ago

Thank you for the links