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I'm in my late 20s. In the last years, I've moved a few times and tried out a bunch of things. And discovered I have a hard time getting close to people.

I used to think I just need to go out more. But I found out that most people I meet just don't seem to "fit" with me.

Let's say I meet some interesting people, who are funny, smart and have shared interests with me. We make a bit of small talk, hang out, and then I go home exhausted, feeling like I just came out of a work meeting that should have been an email. And given from how they rarely invite me back, I guess the feeling is mutual.

Someone told me I am quite cold towards people I don't know well. Part of that might be that my usual way of talking is a bit emotionless. Another part could be a consequence of me basically going through the script in my head. "How is work these days? Cool. Yeah, me too. Yup." I don't want to be this way. But I also don't want to go into full sales presentation mode, because that feels really wrong.

I used to think I would just become misanthropic. But there are people where I just click with. Talking to them is not a chore, but something I look forward to. And they seem to enjoy my company as well. Some events seem to have a lot more of "my people", some less.

If you read my rambling until here, thanks. I genuinely don't know any more. Am I becoming the old sod sitting on his porch yelling at kids? Or am I just spending time on the wrong people? Have you experienced something similar? And how could I change this?

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[–] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 21 points 18 hours ago

Here's some advice from someone with a high nat charisma role on birth:

Gaining friends, lovers, or even acquaintances isn't a goal to be worked towards - rather - the best kinds of these relationships are byproducts of mutual interest and experiences.

If your efforts are only going towards showing up at social events to participate in small talk, then no wonder it feels like you're coming home from work. Because that's the same behavior expected at work.

This "social script" we're expected to follow at work is to maintain social standing to get work done, rather than grow and deepen connections.

Basically, work socialization and personal socialization should be approached differently, and taking the work approach to your private life will likely lead to the same kind of relationships you're building at work: simple and makes your work easier. (Rather than relationships that are deep, and make your life more colorful.)

Here's something to try the next time you find a group you want to be a part of:

  • 1st: Don't talk about work itself. Talk about the actions you take at work. Don't say, "I work in sales" say "I sell shit to those that don't need it."

Talk about the specific actions you take, in work or anywhere else, and personalize them.

The fundamentals of any relationship are built on the aligned behaviors of individuals. The easiest way to determine if the way you behave is similar to others is to talk about how you act. And if you can add in your own opinion about those actions, even better. These small things communicate who you are much better than anything else. Actions speak louder than words, so try your best to speak about yourself as the actions you take - use verbs to describe yourself, not nouns.

  • 2nd: Don't talk about yourself unless asked. Instead, engage with others to learn about them. Specially, what actions they like.

If you know someone is interested in something like bikes. Don't ask what bikes they like, ask if they "like the thrill of downhill mountain biking," or "prefer a chill bike ride through the park."

Do they watch movies? Don't ask "did you like that Movie?" Rather, ask "did you like pacing of that Movie?"

Verbs should also be at the heart of your inquiries into others, as they describe the actions others have that might align with yours.

That is - good relationships are built on mutual action, not mutual interest.

So don't ask, "How was work?" ask "What projects are you working on?" Then follow that inquiry up with more specifics on their behaviour through that project - "How hard was the project to complete? Who got in your way?"

Basically, socialize as if the people you want to hang around are all the main characters within their own show. They have adventures, villians, love interests, etc - and just spending time learning what those are, will make them feel closer to you. Once you know enough about them, you can begin asking them about the events in their own show. That is, in time, your small talk will grow from, "how was work?" to "did you get your evil manager fired over their bullshit harrasment?"

And that's the difference between a friend, and someone you know at work.

Eventually, when you learn about these people more, you'll discover the behaviour they have that aligns with yours. And eventually, you'll begin doing stuff together with them.

They like casual bike rides? Cool, give it a shot with them! They like seeing matinees on Sunday? Cool join em!

The more you show an interest in how people behave, the more likely it is they will want to include you as part of that behaviour.

  • 3rd. Encourage others. Be their hype man.

You know how they act? Great. Encourage it. Sometimes, even encourage it with you included.

They love bike riding? Great. Tell them about the park near your house they should try. Heck. You can even join em.

People often have goals tied to their favorite behaviours. If you know what those goals are, you can encourage them to pursue them. When they succeed, you will now be a part of it they'll remember.

In time, you keep up the above, you'll be surrounded by people you know well, and whom you've shared a lot of activities with.

And they will without question enjoy you in their lives for it.