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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 145 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They're shit cars. Let's please stop pretending they aren't. The build quality is abhorrent.

Yes, they had the cool factor for a while, and yes, I feel sorry for (some of) those who got caught up in something they didn't want to be caught up in. But also, the writing has been on the wall a long time, and build quality issues have been public knowledge for about as long.

You get what you pay for.

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 125 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You get what you pay for.

At $90K, no you most certainly don't.

[–] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The majority of the cost is stupid tax

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do you have a source for that?

Also we should note that Tesla paid $0 income tax on $2 billion income in 2024. And Trump axed the tax rebate to help people buy EVs.

[–] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Dumb tax as in tax for being dumb. I was joking.

I think "stupid tax" is the more common verbiage, I've updated it

[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Personally I think “idiot tax” works better.

“Stupid” and “dumb” being adjectives that could also be describing the tax itself, rather than the person paying it, is ambiguous. But “idiot tax” clearly says, to me anyway, “a tax on idiots.”

[–] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Ah yeah good point

[–] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago

Ah, that makes sense. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

The phrase “idiot tax” is also used to describe people who buy lottery tickets.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My buddy found blue painter’s tape where there was supposed to be wire conduit and screws when he lifted up the carpet on his. You may note that blue painter’s tape is intentionally designed to be temporary and dissolve away after a few weeks, which is much less than the expected lifespan of AN ENTIRE FUCKING CAR.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I had a coworker who bought a used one five years ago who said it was great having the first owner do all the repairs.

[–] __nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I have a co-worker that bought a 10 year old one and is finding out it's not great doing all the repairs. He had to replace a motor after the coolant leaked and caused the car to seize up. Had to be flatbeded to the nearest Tesla repair center and hour away. Got put on the back of the queue and couldn't get any commitments on when the repair would be finished. It has some other issue with a window and a parking brakeb ring being flaky as well.

On the other hand my 16 year old Honda kept chugging along.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Right, but you gotta admit, older Hondas are made of steel. Figuratively and literally.

[–] alanjaow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Webster's updated "literally". It now includes the definition "to add emphasis", since people keep using it incorrectly. They update the dictionary to reflect current usage, so I get it, but it still makes me sad.

[–] Masshuru@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

All words are made up.

[–] setsubyou@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If this sort of thing didn’t happen, you would just have claimed that seeing the dictionary entry makes you not hungry. (Original meaning of sad in Old English, cognate with German satt which still has this meaning.)

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are probably some cases were words changed their meaning from positive to negative. (I know there are in German)

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Contronyms are words that hold two opposite meanings

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 16 hours ago

I didn’t mean contronyms.

One example of what I mean is the word knight. It used to mean boy or servant. The German word Knecht still means (farmers) servant.

Another is ‘nice’, which used to mean ‘simple, foolish, ignorant’.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Mark my words, it's going to happen again with "objectively". I see stuff like this constantly:

This art piece is objectively good

That's not what's objectively means?