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[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Which billionaire owns email?

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Email? I don't even know how many addresses are owned by Google.

I'm just saying, The internet may still have a small piece of "nomansland" left, but it's shrinking by the second.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Microsoft owns Outlook. A lot of people use their iCloud email address. ISP emails.

People here have been moving to Infomaniak, Posteo, mailbox.org, Proton, Tuta

Email is still open and free to use. That's what I mean when I say Lemmy cannot be bought.

[–] chmod755@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

Many people in my country are using GMX

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Email by design does not send everyone's email to everyone else's server. It's not a good comparison.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Remember Usenet? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[–] clove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No, I'm not. It's a terrible "point".

Email is a technology, yes. ActivityPub is also a technology. Correct, nobody "owns" either. That's where the similarity ends though. If SatanCorp comes along and sets up their own instance, they get everything everyone posts. Every message they send. Instances can defederate, yes, which requires SatanCorp to spend another 10 dollars on a host name. I don't think people understand how trust based and fragile ActivityPub and Lemmy are, or how little privacy there is in any of what you do here, from good actors or bad.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

https://gui.fediseer.com/ already allows instances to establish trust with each other.

If a scenario like yours happens, admins would probably switch to an allow list model where new instances need to demonstrate trust

Every message they send.

They can already scrap all the content.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

What you're suggesting is defederation by default. On the "fediverse".

[–] clove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You just can't gey the point, huh?

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sure. Why don't you enlighten me?

[–] clove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'll give you a hint. Try reading the original thread but put aside your own agenda.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, I want you to tell me what the point is. Seems like it's obvious to you?

[–] clove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I rather you learn to fish than me hamd you a fish. You got this!

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How embarrassing for us both. Me unable to get the point, and you unable to convey it. A real failure of communication.

[–] clove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

Just a inherent nature of communication via text. Best people can do is call out the cracks. Hope you and OP are able to get somewhere.

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org -1 points 2 days ago