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[โ€“] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Microsoft owns Outlook. A lot of people use their iCloud email address. ISP emails.

People here have been moving to Infomaniak, Posteo, mailbox.org, Proton, Tuta

Email is still open and free to use. That's what I mean when I say Lemmy cannot be bought.

[โ€“] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Email by design does not send everyone's email to everyone else's server. It's not a good comparison.

[โ€“] clove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

No, I'm not. It's a terrible "point".

Email is a technology, yes. ActivityPub is also a technology. Correct, nobody "owns" either. That's where the similarity ends though. If SatanCorp comes along and sets up their own instance, they get everything everyone posts. Every message they send. Instances can defederate, yes, which requires SatanCorp to spend another 10 dollars on a host name. I don't think people understand how trust based and fragile ActivityPub and Lemmy are, or how little privacy there is in any of what you do here, from good actors or bad.

[โ€“] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

https://gui.fediseer.com/ already allows instances to establish trust with each other.

If a scenario like yours happens, admins would probably switch to an allow list model where new instances need to demonstrate trust

Every message they send.

They can already scrap all the content.

[โ€“] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

What you're suggesting is defederation by default. On the "fediverse".

[โ€“] clove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You just can't gey the point, huh?

[โ€“] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure. Why don't you enlighten me?

[โ€“] clove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'll give you a hint. Try reading the original thread but put aside your own agenda.

[โ€“] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, I want you to tell me what the point is. Seems like it's obvious to you?

[โ€“] clove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I rather you learn to fish than me hamd you a fish. You got this!

[โ€“] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How embarrassing for us both. Me unable to get the point, and you unable to convey it. A real failure of communication.

[โ€“] clove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

Just a inherent nature of communication via text. Best people can do is call out the cracks. Hope you and OP are able to get somewhere.

[โ€“] Photuris@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Remember Usenet? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[โ€“] chmod755@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago

Many people in my country are using GMX

[โ€“] Faydaikin@beehaw.org -1 points 3 months ago