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I say that to anyone who doesn't know what they're talking about.
You arrogantly say it to anyone to your left.
That's not true. You don't know what you're talking about. Stop. Just stop.
Don't you have a republican to capitulate to?
No, dingus, I don't.
Oh, that's why you're so cranky. Here you are gaslighting and abusing someone to your left and there's not even a chance that you'll get headpats from republicans for doing it.
How do you know that you're to my left? You don't know me. What makes you so far left, anyway? Are you a Marxist, anarchist? What? You wanna gate keep the left, let's do it. Give me your specific socioeconomic, sociopolitical ideal, and details about how you think it can be achieved. I'm dying to hear about your grand plan to change the world and usher in utopia. Come on, we're all waiting for you. The future of humanity is in your hands, your plan had better be good.
I don't side with charlie kirk regarding trans people, for one. Discussion's about trans people.
If I dare to disagree with you and charlie kirk, I need to have a solution for every last one of the world's ills? Seems like a pretty high bar to clear just to be to your left regarding trans people.
When did I even once mention trans people?
When did I even once mention Charlie Kirk?
Is that all you think the Left is? Trans issues? There's nothing more to the Left than matters pertaining to trans people? You do realize that there are many billions of people on the planet who are not trans, and that their concerns matter as well?
I think you may be in the wrong thread, then.
I think that's what this thread is about.
The thread is about trans people. You're just trying to deflect.
Such as your lord and savior charlie kirk.
I'm not the one deflecting. You never answered my question: should the concerns of non-trans people also matter to the Left?
Yes, this thread is about trans issues, specifically the question of whether or not trans women should be allowed to participate in women's sports. Do you realize how privileged you have to be for that to be a major concern? Poverty, destitution, illness, these are problems that millions of people face everyday, yet you won't even acknowledge them because "that's not what this thread is about." You're no Leftist.
I'm sure they matter to you. Particularly the concerns of charlie kirk and his bestie gavin newsom.
I know enough trans people so it's personal, but it also speaks to a pattern of behavior within the centrist wing of the democratic party. Trans athletes are just the most recent group that democrats have thrown under the bus for the unmitigated delight of hearing the thumping sounds.
And your wing of the party has made it crystal clear that they are uninterested in helping anyone poorer than the "good billionaires" they toady up to.
They do. The question is: do they matter to you?
I don't know why you keep bringing up Charlie Kirk. I know next to nothing about him, I don't listen to him. I don't know, or care what he thinks about, well, much of anything, really.
It's not my wing of the party. I don't have a party, which is why I said I wanted to build a new Leftist movement: one that is interested in the concerns of the working class people. But, what folks like you don't understand, is that most working class people are not concerned about whether or not trans women are allowed to participate in women's sports. They are concerned about paying their rent, feeding their families, affording medical care, and other day-to-day, material issues. I choose to focus on those issues. You can focus on whatever you want, I don't care. My new Leftist movement won't include people like you, because you're not helping anyone, and I don't think you care to. You would accept widespread harm, so long as you could go on performing as a social justice advocate.
I have nothing more to say to you. I'm really not interested in reading another one of your vapid, banal responses about Charlie Kirk, or whatever other nonsense you might come up with. I'm going to go actually try to make the world a better place.
Because he was in the article. You read the article, right?
You're pretty angry for someone who doesn't care.
I think we can help people without throwing vulnerable minorities under the bus like you advocate for. The democratic party does that plenty already, and I have no doubt that once you've stripped support for trans people, you'll find some other group to advocate throwing under the bus instead of trying to do anything about poverty.