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[–] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But… do they need to access it during their work hours? Isn’t this a nothing burger, like with tiktok?

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Restricting websites without a damn good reason is bad practice in IT, as far as I'm concerned.

If the website causes a legitimate threat of data exfiltration or getting the employer handed a lawsuit (piracy, sexual harassment, w/e), sure, block it.

But using web filters to solve managerial problems like employee productivity is demeaning to workers and unnecessary overhead on IT.

Our job in IT, at the end of the day is to improve productivity...sure...but blocking benign websites takes us away from that.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

unnecessary overhead on IT.

If they're running a proper web filter it's a single checkbox for the "news" category

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Which could be set to "permit" or could be set to "get 1000 calls asking why we can't get to CNN".

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you have a proper web filter it explains to the user why they can't get to CNN when they attempt to get to CNN

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Yes, so they can call and ask for an exception.

[–] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

Sooo its a nothing burger?

[–] formulaBonk@lemm.ee -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Restricting websites and whitelisting the ones you’re supposed to have access to is literally like one of the fundamental rules of it security. What are you talking about?

I don’t think this particular case was about security but pretending that block-by-default is not a good security practice is dishonest.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The idea of IT fixes for HR problems irks me. It's overhead on IT that could and should be spent doing other more important things.

If an employee is slacking off on time-wasting sites, that's a problem between the employee and their manager. Leave IT out of it. Treat all your employees like responsible adults and handle them individually. Blocking benign websites for everyone is collective punishment and I disagree with that.

I've been thinking about announcing in some of my office chatrooms that we are going to block Reddit and SO for April fools. I think a lot of people would believe it so hard.

[–] formulaBonk@lemm.ee 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s not an IT fix for HR problem. It’s literally just a best practice in IT security and has absolutely nothing to do with people. It’s a priciple of least required access. It’s not just for website filters, it applies to all aspects of security. In this case, it’s to prevent fishy websites being visited by accident - for example your finger slips and you misspell a company website address and all of a sudden it redirects you to a phishing version of Microsoft SSO login portal you always use to sign in to work. You didn’t notice it and you input credentials compromising your system.

These websites are rampant, constantly finding new ways to social engineer ways for people to accidentally visit them and can’t be added to a filter as fast as they pop up. That’s why you block by default. It’s a lot easier to make a list of websites required for your work than to exclude every potentially harmful website that’s getting generated magnitudes faster than any internal company portal.

This is a very simple example of applying the “least privilege” security principle. It’s akin to you not leaving your front door open and unlocked just in case one of your friends drops by, but instead giving the friend a set of keys and locking your door.

I should note that I don’t think that’s what musk is doing to our government but since you seemed to have misunderstood what the security principle is actually meant for I wanted to add some context.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But that's what blocking newly registered domains and unknown domains are for.

Most webfilters have boxes to block those. Usually much higher up than News sites.

[–] formulaBonk@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wow lot of tech illiterate people in this thread. Jesus Christ what a waste of time

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

I kind of wonder where people work that IT doesn't block a handful of legitimate sites.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

It's internet my man. As long as it doesn't break AUP, we pay zScaler a lot of money to allow people to go to News sites and block phishing, known baddies, new domains, and unknown sites.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"Local news blocked," one employee said. "So if there was a local shooting or something, I wouldn't be able to see."

Seems like this burger has some fries on the side.

[–] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How often does he check the news to ne able to possibly catch that?

That guy def is not working!

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

How about monitoring local news for inclement weather happening during the work day?

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Maybe 20 years ago before everyone had a mini computer with its own internet connection in their pockets