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[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Obama's human rights record is abysmal. Sure he did a lot of good things too, but not closing Guantanamo, ramping up drone strikes etc negate all of that good. I've written him a couple of letters with all of this in detail to which he has yet to respond (no surprise). Instead he's doing voice over work for shitty documentaries on Netflix.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

Yeah Obama hasn't written me back either!

wtf

[–] Fluffy_Ruffs@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

When trying to hold your leaders to a higher standard gets you downvotes. Classic.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social -5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The downvotes are for the whataboutism

[–] Fluffy_Ruffs@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't disagree. But holding both sides of the aisle to a certain standard doesn't have to be whataboutism, though. It's possible to look at government's behavior as a whole without deflecting in the name of your particular side.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 0 points 3 days ago

In this case though, it's a community note on xitter, so it's definitely there as whataboutism

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Obama hasn't been president for nearly a decade.

And there are a lot of things to criticize him about, but he legitimately tried to close Guantanamo, and was blocked by Republicans (and possibly some Democrats?) over and over.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

Bernie Sanders voted against Obama's attempt to "close Guantanamo," because all he wanted to do was close the specific location while keeping the prisoners and practices going in other locations, possibly on US soil which would've provided firmer legal precedent for it.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You must be so happy that your sitting president is such a humanitarian.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This may come as a surprise for you but you can be against something or someone without being for something or someone else.

[–] Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Ooh, are you protesting what-aboutism on a what-about reply? Seems a tad bigoted, no?

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

When a cheap shot is so bad it doesn't even have a connection.

"Some facts about Obama."

"You must like Trump!"