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A few weeks ago, I explicitly disabled it everywhere I could find within account.google.com and I've not used anything gemini since. Now I get this email and find it enabled on my devices.

By default Gemini has permissions to access everything on screen, view your contacts/messages, and can be used from the lockscreen....

I'm not all that surprised; but I'm still annoyed. Especially with the opt-out of data collection/access after it's been given access to everything.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 60 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Come to GrapheneOS where your phone just leaves you the fuck alone and does what you ask of it.

[–] truxnell@infosec.pub 5 points 6 days ago

This is the way. I resisted doing a custom ROM based on past experience, but GrapheneOS is absolutely worth it. The day I saw Gemini in the text messaging app is the day I bit the bullet. Wish I did it sooner

[–] kat@orbi.camp 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's crazy the peace of mind you get from it.

[–] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

what's the privacy vs pure security info? is GrapheneOS actually keeping our data more private or just making it really hard to get hacked?

I've been on it for like a week now and love it

[–] kat@orbi.camp 4 points 1 week ago

It makes the former possible but you still meed to keep up on privacy hygiene. Check out privacyguides.org to help you with that. Privacy is a spectrum, so the trick is finding where you want to be and assesing what you have to sacrifice to do so.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

Security is the priority, but that does usually give you a good amount of privacy too.

One example I remember where there was a clash was developing their sandboxed Google Play Services rather than supporting MicroG. I think their reasoning was that sandboxing the Google code makes it much more secure, and even though MicroG is more private from Google it's still a mystery blob with full access to your device and therefore less secure.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

I mean that's complicated. The former is far more in your hands.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago

Or any degoogled ROM for that matter

[–] joshcodes@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can I install on a Samsung? I know computers and their bootloaders/OSs pretty well but phones are mostly a mystery

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No its only available on Pixels for security reasons.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What does the pixel have that an S24 doesn't?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

Honestly don't know. Something to do with the Tensor chip and monthly and quarterly software updates.

https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices

Unlockable bootloaders and guaranteed security updates for several years (at least, that's the claim).

[–] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have a Verizon pixel. Enlighten me.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well for starters there's no Gemini unless you choose to install it on your device.

Other than that, just general privacy and security improvements. Sandboxed Google Play Services is another big benefit.

You can check out the website if you want to know more.

[–] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)