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New Firefox Terms "does NOT give us ownership of your data" (connect.mozilla.org)

submitted 1 day ago by Vincent to c/firefox@lemmy.world

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Thanks everyone for your active participation here. We knew this would have a lot of interest and so we’ve waited to dive into the conversation because we see some themes emerging that I’ll respond to broadly here. The main concerns I’m noting are around the license agreements we declare, our use of data for AI, and our Acceptable Use Policy. Below are a few clarifications to each of these areas.

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[–] simple@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They're opt-in by default, it's not like they're forcing AI on you.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even the mere existence of AI which usage is opt-in is a so called slippery slope.

[–] simple@lemm.ee -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not really. Other companies forced AI to appeal to investors and look for new ways to trap consumers in subscriptions. Mozilla added free, privacy-friendly addons because people asked for it. Big difference.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

We're already seeing other companies shoehorn in chatbots into everything to try to make up for the fact that the trend didn't really catch on.

[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

... yet

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

idk why people are downvoting, it's exactly what has happened with literally every bad policy online anywhere. They beta test it to gauge how bad backlash would be, then if it's acceptable go ahead with it, if too much backlash just use the "oh it was just a beta! we would never do that 🥺" excuse then in 6 months try again

Edit: the Lemmy hive mind has reversed their decision. It was at +4 | -4 when I replied

[–] simple@lemm.ee -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Because they said multiple times they don't plan on making it a default. From the very beginning Mozilla announced their AI extensions will not be forced on people. I don't understand the "but what if they do" comments. "What if elon musk bought firefox?!??! It could happen!"

[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago

Also said "we will never share your data" and now they've removed that from the terms. I assume you're aware that they just had a change in leadership? These decisions come from whichever is in charge. New leadership might still agree enough with it to not change it, but what about the person after, or the one after that? As they say "never is a very long time".

I'm also not saying it will definitely happen, but my confidence in it not happening is now low enough that I switched to LibreWolf.