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[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That's in line with being from Switzerland. Act cool, but be sure to stick with the richer people and do their interest. Never used Proton (I use Tuta instead) for that reason only. You are free to call me racist.

[–] pheggs@feddit.org 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I am Swiss myself and I feel like things are changing since Trumps second term, at least my friends seek closer ties to Europe now.

Proton gives me a bad feeling in the stomach, I would encourage people to not trust it. The guy is either a big Trump fan or most of his customers are from that base. The best option for e-mail is selfhost + pgp, the second best option are the various small companies offering email all across Europe.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Does Europe in your first sentence mean the EU or Europe in general, maybe even including Russia?

[–] pheggs@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Russia

lol Russia is not particularly popular here right now, we are even on their list of "unfriendly countries" if you didn't know.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

One of the "countries" in that list is the whole EU. That makes it practically meaningless when they have countries like Hungary licking they ass day and night.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Some of the initial people involved did their university and post grad studies in the US, so they seem more American than Swiss to me and more chose Switzerland to conduct business after starting the company up after meeting at CERN.

[–] jagged_circle 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tuta isnt really a replacement for proton. They dont even support PGP encryption, which is kinda the whole point of proton.

[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Tuta uses standard algorithms also being used by PGP (AES and RSA or ECC) for encrypting the entire mailbox. In addition, Tuta Mail already uses post-quantum cryptography (Kyber) for quantum safe accounts, which is still a work in progress for PGP. Furthermore, Tuta does not use an implementation of PGP itself because PGP lacks important requirements that we have for Tuta

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[–] jagged_circle 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 59 minutes ago)

Read the last sentence. They dont use PGP for emails.

Find me how you can send PGP emails to someone off tuta. You can't. They disabled it.

With proton its one click.