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As a WM user myself, it's a big hassle to choose system utilities, and to manually write config or environment variables to have programs understand I'm using a custom DE and just behave like it's GNOME, KDE or XFCE.
On the other hand, mainstream DE don't natively support tiling. There are extensions or plugins do that, but there are a lot of problems with that. To name a few, 1) like said, they are sometimes bugged in edge cases; 2) I could report the bug, but it takes time to fix it, during which I have to disable the plugin; 3) when the extension devs abandon the project, I have to move on with a new one, which often behaves differently; 4) when the extension or the newest version of the extension requires newer dependencies, but I can't install them because I don't want to shake the whole dependency tree for my system
All aforementioned problems can be resolved with a DE that natively supports tiling, and as of now Cosmic is the first that does it in history, letting alone supporting Wayland as well. From that perspective, the project is not "just a rewrite of what's existing already"
So it's Gnome with a built-in tiling manager? I'm not getting your justification.
I'm sure it's not, but even if it is, I'm happy for the project because it fits one of my needs in the Linux space. To other people like the Rust lovers, it's another ambitious project that uses their favorite technology. It might not sound or look so appealing to you, but at the end of the day, it's a project that has good motivation and does deliver so far, which is the backstory behind many scientific and technological advances. As someone who is not the developer, nor the employer at System76 who pays the developers, so why not just sit back and see how it ends up, as opposed to being super critical about it?
It doesn't have a purpose, is my point. I just want someone to tell me the WHY of the project, and nobody seems to be able to.
It does have a purpose. It's written all over the place. It just happens that all of the purposes don't fit your needs or interest you, so it sounds like a waste of effort. To many others, it's not
I'm not seeing what the differentiation is between this and Gnome, and even you are not giving that. Tiling is solved elsewhere.