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[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 50 points 8 hours ago (37 children)

What does "officially becoming Cap" mean?

Steve Rogers Captain America literally passes the Captain America shield to Sam Wilson in Endgame. Is that not officially Sam Wilson Captain America's start?

Sure, Falcon and the Winter Soldier will go on to tell the story of Sam's struggle in becoming the next Captain America, but by that series end, Sam is definitely Captain America.

When Brave New World starts, Sam is Captain America. The opening battle, that's Sam Wilson Captain America.

If you've seen Endgame, you know Sam is Cap. If you've seen Falcon and the Winter Soldier, you know Sam is Cap. If your introduction is Brave New World... Sam is Cap.


That said I get the Brave New World & Thunderbolts confusion. Bucky is a Captain America character, so seeing Bucky in the Thunderbolts trailer makes that film seem like a Captain America film. I know it's not that simple and it's a shared universe, but I get that one.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

It felt so strange to me, as it seemed like Bucky was the more natural choice to pick up the mantle. Might've been more interesting too

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)
[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Well it happened in the comics I'm pretty sure.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

Stronger personal ties to Steve, with connections to his entire journey and villains, with similar abilities. Falcon feels like just some dude without the same buildup or connection to Captain America.

I haven't read the comics at all so this is just impressions from the films.

[–] HATEFISH@midwest.social 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

At the end of the day they are stories targeted mostly at children or at least need to be fairly sanitized for kids. I don't see how they could make a multiple murderer and killer of iron mans parents the new captain America in the MCU.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

The Russian puppet is more believable as a member of Congress.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago

Fair enough. I'd personally find it more interesting, and the baggage he'd have to deal with more directly tied to Steve's story. He'd also have the best idea of "what would Steve do" and struggling to meet that ideal while also struggling with a tortured past and forging a new path is worth exploring, with most of it already set up.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I certainly think they could have gone that route. I think Falcon and Winter Soldier does a good job exploring that idea. I do think handing it to Sam is interesting from a non-super soldier standpoint.

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