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What counts as an attack for the purposes of the invisibility spell? (lemmy.ca)

submitted 1 day ago by PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca to c/dnd@lemmy.world

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I'm trying to figure out a ruling for something one of my players wants to do. They're invisible, but they took a couple of seemingly non-attack actions that my gut says should break inviz.

Specifically, they dumped out a flask of oil, and then used a tinderbox to light it on fire. Using a tinderbox isn't an attack, nor is emptying a flask, although they are actions , and the result of lighting something on fire both seems like an attack and something that would dispell inviz.

I know that as DM I can rule it however I want, but I'm fairly inexperienced and I don't wanna go nerfing one of my players tools just because it feels yucky to me personally without understanding the implications.

Is this an attack or is there another justification for breaking inviz that is there some RAW clause I didn't see? Or should this be allowed?

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[–] thebigslime@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

An attack makes an attack roll.

[–] Dultas@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

So magic missiles wouldn't break invisibility? Fireball or any other spell that has a save roll and not an attack role?

[–] Nycto@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

You are correct that the actions you listed are not attacks, but the Invisibility spell says ...

The spell ends early immediately after the target makes an attack roll, deals damage, or casts a spell.

This whole sentence is a way to check your ability to avoid interactions with the world by being invisible while still interacting with it.

Some interactions bend this rule. Not many break it with a fair DM. The closest I have come was an Arcane Trickster character who can cast Mage Hand (which had Invisibility due to a class ability) then potion of Invisibility. I could use the Mage Hand for the duration of the spell ... but then I couldn't recast it without dropping Invisibility.