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Can't see how this can go wrong sovcit. (lemmy.world)

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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It's astonishing to me that people don't give up the whole sovcit thing once it backfires horribly.

"Yeah I sent them a letter saying I don't owe them anything and now I have debt collectors after me."

"I told the courts I can't be summoned cuz I'm a living person and now there's a warrent out for my arrest!"

"I told the cop I'm not a citizen so I'm not beholden to their laws but I just got tased and thrown in jail!!"

"I told the judge I wanted to contest his jurisdiction but he still sentenced me to jail!!! Wtf!!"

At any point does it cross their minds that maybe they were lied to or take advantage of? Not once?? It's so incredible. Stuff like this is why I got really interested in psychology and trying to learn about the human condition but then I found out actual psychology jobs aren't really about that so I work in a metal fabrication shop now. Idk I guess if you're reading this remember to stay hydrated.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I've seen exactly one in all my sovcit observations who admitted it didn't work, and they chucked him out of the group. He ended up evicted for not paying rent, because he decided he had paid enough rent, and 20K in debt.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Damn, his grievances are real and relatable. He's clearly fed up with the system, as we all are, and sadly that led him to buy into lies people told him, based on the thin hope that he might have some modicum of power over his situation.

I get it, this system is absolutely oppressive. It's hard to accept being on the low end of such a massive power imbalance. It doesn't excuse the sov cit movement, but I definitely feel the pain this guy is going through.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

It's astonishing to me that people don't give up the whole sovcit thing once

It is genuinely astonishing. I've tried with these people and seem how far they take it. Literally no limit to the willful ignorance. Even when they have to stand in the pouring rain claiming they're completely dry and the sun is shining.

"The higher, pretentious form of stupidity stands only too often in crass opposition to [its] honorable form. It is not so much lack of intelligence as failure of intelligence, for the reason that it presumes to accomplishments to which it has no right … The stupidity this addresses is no mental illness, yet it is most lethal; a dangerous disease of the mind that endangers life itself. … [S]ince the ‘higher stupidity’ consists not in an inability to understand but in a refusal to understand, any healing or reversal of it will not occur through rational argumentation, through a greater accumulation of data and knowledge, or through experiencing new and different feelings … We may say that the reversal of a spiritual sickness must entail a spiritual cure.”

https://howtobeastoic.wordpress.com/2016/01/19/one-crucial-word/

[–] TheBeege@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you, actually. I'm gonna go get some water