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xQc Shocked by Asmongold saying "IDGAF, Terrible People, Inferior Culture" about Genocide in Gaza (youtu.be)

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[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have never watched asmongold but literally everything I have heard about him indicates he is a piece of shit.

[+] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club -33 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Basic Lemmy take, I get it. I like him, but understand why leftists would loath him.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand why anyone, other than racists, would like someone who said someone else's culture was "inferior" and used that as justification for their genocide.

[+] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club -25 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I get this take, it's the leftist perspective. Saying for the sake of discussion that there's a genocide happening, to be fair to Asmongold, he didn't say he supports it, just that he doesn't care about its victims.

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yes and that's a bad thing

[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago

The concept of caring about anyone, other than you and yours, is alien to these people. Fucking sickening, to be honest.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I'm going to propose a wild take that being apathetic about a genocide is tantamount to support.

Edited to add: also, what you seem to call leftism, I call humanism.

[+] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club -13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’m going to propose a wild take that being apathetic about a genocide is tantamount to support.

I mean, they're not the same though. "I don't care about the Jews" isn't the same as "throw all the Jews into the oven". They're both bad, but that doesn't mean that one is as bad as the other.

Edited to add: also, what you seem to call leftism, I call humanism.

Of course you would. And a right wing fascist would call their perspective humanism too. Your framing matters little to me.

[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

People who don't care about genocide victims are anything but humanist. For you to see such unnecessary and great suffering, and be apathetic to it, you must have some serious issues.

[+] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club -7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What genocide?

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

De-Gaza: A Year of Israel’s Genocide and the Collapse of World Order - Euro-Med Monitor Report see Chapter 2 and 3

On 26 January 2024, the ICJ said that it was plausible that Israel had breached the Genocide Convention. As an emergency measure, it ordered Israel ensure that its army refrained from genocidal acts against Palestinians.

The ICJ reported, as part of its decisions in March and May, that the situation in Gaza had deteriorated and that Israel had failed to abide by its order in January.

Israel's war on Gaza: What the international courts have said

So, when we look at the actions taken, the dropping of thousands and thousands of bombs in a couple of days, including phosphorus bombs, as we heard, on one of the most densely populated areas around the world, together with these proclamations of intent, this indeed constitutes genocidal killing, which is the first act, according to the convention, of genocide. And Israel, I must say, is also perpetrating act number two and three — that is, causing serious bodily or mental harm, and creating condition designed to bring about the destruction of the group by cutting off water, food, supply of energy, bombing hospitals, ordering the fast evictions of hospitals, which the World Health Organization has declared to be, quote, “a death sentence.” So, we’re seeing the combination of genocidal acts with special intent. This is indeed a textbook case of genocide.

“A Textbook Case of Genocide”: Israeli Holocaust Scholar Raz Segal Decries Israel’s Assault on Gaza

More than 800 scholars of international law and genocide have signed a public statement arguing that the Israeli military may be committing genocidal acts against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip as the total siege and relentless airstrikes continue to inflict devastation on the occupied territory.

800+ Legal Scholars Say Israel May Be Perpetrating 'Crime of Genocide' in Gaza

An independent United Nations expert warned Monday that "Israel's genocidal violence risks leaking out of Gaza and into the occupied Palestinian territory as a whole" as Western governments, corporations, and other institutions keep up their support for the Israeli military, which stands accused of grave war crimes in the Gaza Strip and West Bank.

UN Expert Says Impunity for Israel Must End as 'Genocidal Violence' Spreads to West Bank

Our documentation encompasses over 500 incitements of violence and genocidal incitement, appearing in the forms of social media posts, television interviews, and official statements from Israeli politicians, army personnel, journalists, and other influential personalities.

Law for Palestine Releases Database with 500+ Instances of Israeli Incitement to Genocide – Continuously Updated

Others: AP News, Time, Reuters, Vox, CBC

[–] realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club -2 points 6 months ago

I appreciate this good faith response. These aren't bad sources and I've gone through some of this material several months ago when making my mind up about this, my position is pretty in line with this scholar quoted in your TIME article:

David Simon, director of the genocide studies program at Yale University, says that Israel has only explicitly said they want to exterminate Hamas, and has not directly stated intent to “destroy a religious, ethnic or racial group.” Simon says it's possible a court could conclude that either Hamas or some elements of the Israel Defense Force (IDF) could be found guilty of committing an act of genocide, but “it's certainly not textbook in that connecting the intent to destroy ethnic group as such is difficult.”

Nonetheless I do agree that the IDF has committed multiple war crimes during the Israel-Hamas War, going back to its beginning when their besieged Gaza, for which Israel must be held accountable.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You keep implying the ideas of protesting the murder of innocent people and the promotion of equality as 'leftist', and that bring a negative thing. I, and many others, just call it "having empathy and a conscience".

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

I've tried watching him. Can confirm he's a piece of shit. And annoying as fuck too.