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Democrats be like (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 7 months ago by VictimOfAmerikkka@lemmygrad.ml to c/memes@hexbear.net

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[–] ThirdWorldOrder -4 points 7 months ago (4 children)

So what you’re telling the class is that MAGA is a liberal group?

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 49 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The liberal doesn't understand what ideologies are!

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[–] ThirdWorldOrder -4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

So you’re saying I was a liberal my whole life but just didn’t know it until I fortuitously came across this meme thread and all these helpful people pointed it out? Checks out 🤟

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 47 points 7 months ago

Yes. yes-chad

You live in the biggest liberal country, it's politics are liberal. It's ruling parties are flavors of liberalism, you just aren't aware of the terminology I guess. It doesn't help that the conservative wing of the liberals here label their opponents liberal, it's an easy misunderstanding to have.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 33 points 7 months ago

Just take 10 minutes (maybe make it an hour depending on your reading pace) and have a look at the first paragraph of the Wikipedia article

Like unless you're a monarchist or some other weird regressive form of conservative, you are a liberal.

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 33 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yes you have always been a Liberal because you exist in a hegemonic Liberal society, ie the only option presented ever are various flavors of Liberal. You are like a fish who doesn’t understand what water is because you’ve never tried to jump above its surface

[–] ThirdWorldOrder -5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I’ve lived in several different counties lol

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

All of them bourgeois Liberal dictatorships

[–] ThirdWorldOrder -3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Do you live in a communist country?

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 35 points 7 months ago

You're being deliberately obfuscating. Read the rest of the thread, they're literally responding to you, not making a universal claim about living in a country meaning you become that country's politics.

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 29 points 7 months ago

I wish, unfortunately it’s very difficult to gain permanent residency in almost all of the socialist states and they are under intense siege and embargo by the dominant Liberal world order.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

working on it

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Bragging about pretenses of being a "world citizen" just screams liberalism... and probably sexpat status.

Being a sexpat creep doesn't make you more sophisticated.

[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 37 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes.

Liberalism is a word that means different things to different people, especially from country to country.

Having its origins in the assertion of bourgeois right against conservative forces, liberalism of all its different varieties is generally an ideology of the urban bourgeoisie. Very broadly, liberalism asserts individual autonomy against the intrusion of the community into that. The main source of ambiguity in liberalism is the divergence between “economic liberalism” and “civic liberalism”.

“Economic liberalism”, sometimes called Neo-liberalism or “big-L Liberalism” advocates a laissez faire economic regime, i.e., the right of property-owners to exercise the power of money unhindered by regulations, redistributive taxes and so on. Economic liberalism therefore easily makes common cause with the traditional sources of conservative politics – the landed aristocracy and Christian fundamentalists. Neo-liberalism (“Economic rationalism” in Australia) favours reliance on market forces to resolve social problems, rather than methods of state regulation.

“Civic liberalism” on the other hand, emphasises the importance of individual autonomy against determination by traditional norms, racial prejudice, entrenched power relations and economic disadvantage. Under the banner of “equality of opportunity”, civic liberalism can come close to forms of communitarianism in emphasising the responsibility of the community to secure the basic conditions of life of members of the community, or, under the banner of “freedom of the individual” on the other hand, to libertarianism, in emphasising the rights of individuals to make “life-style” choices free from interference by the community, provided they do no harm to others.

In the U.S., “liberal” has the specific connotation of seeking to promote the social good without challenging the right of the ruling class to rule. Thus, the American ‘liberal’ who wants higher wages and a better health service is quite distinct from the labour activist who aims for much the same things but whose conception is that this entails a fight against the ruling elite.

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