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First video of cluster munitions used against Russian infantry (streamable.com)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz to c/ukraine@sopuli.xyz
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[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I dunno, it just seems like the delay on the bomblets was too long. And also that a fragmentation round could have gotten them all without leaving unexploded ordinance all over the place.

[–] LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just to provide clarity, the dud rate is approximately 2.5%, so about 1-2 per shell.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Times how many hundreds of shells? With bomblets sitting around for decades after.

And how many survived that hit, as opposed to a similar fragmentation strike? A few survivors aren't actually a bad thing in a lot of cases too. They require resources to care for, draining man power that's already stretched thin.

It just strikes me as a less than efficient weapon choice. I'd be curious to see it compared to air burst flechette rounds in effectiveness.

[–] LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I agree with your points. Demining and EOD in eastern and southern Ukraine could take decades. Cluster munitions will hopefully be a stop-gap, and not the new norm.