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[–] chester22@api.clubsall.com 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We just need to have some bell riots and WW3 and then bam star trek

[–] kshade@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Don't forget to add a little bit of post-atomic horror!

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Are you telling me you can't even imagine a better world?

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 1 year ago

I think that they mean you still have to eat and sleep and try to have joy in your life.

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Nothing to kill or die for, and no religion too

[–] null@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you simply imagine things into existence?

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 year ago

You can act them into existence, but you'll never even start if you can't imagine anything better, even if that's just "we should improve society somewhat."

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] lath@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your nightmare is someone else's dream.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My nightmare is a libertarian's wet dream?

[–] lath@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No idea. Never met a libertarian.

No realistic society can satisfy everyone, because when it comes to individual desires, "we the people" falls apart.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How about a society that isn't predicated on the exploitation of others?

Some societies are objectively more pleasant to humans than others, otherwise we wouldn't strive at all

[–] lath@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Any society needs resources. In order for a society to grow or maintain itself, their consumption of resources must not exceed the production of it. Should we pursue a society that doesn't depend on the heavy exploitation of resources, it would mean to severely limit the reproduction of its population within the society's means of sustaining them. Our planet does not have the capability to sustain our current 8 billion population.

Many of us will die and after that many would be restricted in their rights for procreation.

As such, while those societies might be pleasant for some humans, the ones it needs to get rid of to achieve its desired status won't be too happy with it needing them gone.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think it's doable. Sure we won't have so much cheap crap in the north, but no one needs to starve.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

It might be. Depends on the people really. Hopefully there will be a good example to follow.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Moving on from class society

[–] Censored@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

People all over the world have agency.