sarah2653

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[–] sarah2653@lemmy.ml 1 points 21 minutes ago* (last edited 20 minutes ago)

I don’t have any answers, but you do have my sympathy.

thank you

can only say it pays to learn how to force a smile, even if it feels insincere.

I'm a terrible actor and I hate phony people.

[–] sarah2653@lemmy.ml 1 points 26 minutes ago

If you just say “hello” back then they are usually satisfied.

sadly, that's not the case where I am. They always want more.

[–] sarah2653@lemmy.ml 1 points 28 minutes ago

They take offense because “wanting nothing from them” implies that they have nothing to offer.

but some of them do have something to offer: job experience and know how, but they fixate on gossiping and badmouthing other coworkers when they're not around.

[–] sarah2653@lemmy.ml 1 points 30 minutes ago

why would they take offense in you just wanting nothing with them?

I still don't get it, but they're this needy, apparently

[–] sarah2653@lemmy.ml 1 points 32 minutes ago

If your team are chatty, you don’t need to go all out at the same level they are, but showing some willing and chatting at least sometimes will usually be enough to ensure harmony.

my team is not made of people who simply want a hello. I don't want to even say hello because if I do they'll dump on me a monologue about their weekend, what they cooked or the reasons why they're angry at another coworker.

Knowing how to disengage without causing offence or annoyance is also an important skill.

can you write an answer with tips to disengage without causing offence?

I don't think I can do this: while your post seems genuine I still find it ludicrous to have to placate needy people with attention this way. If I give them a bit of attention, they'll want more and talk to me even more about their feelings at the workplace and distract me, something I don't want.

[–] sarah2653@lemmy.ml 1 points 48 minutes ago

Now you’re engaging; and yes, with hostility, but at least there’s communication and connection.

it’s not being a jerk that’s improved your situation, it’s matching communication styles with your teammates.

do you know those couples where they only communicate yelling? Why would a sane person want that? It still doesn't make any sense. To you engaging with hostility is better than not engaging but I still find it appalling and prefer silence and quietness over yelling and drama. Yelling is extremely draining.

OTOH your post makes me understand how some people think, hopefully a very reduced number of people, but if this is how some of my coworkers communicate and expect me to communicate, quitting is still the right choice. This cannot be healthy on the long term.

Going on, I'll match my new coworkers' communication style and volume, but it can get really ludicrous if 2 "adults" at the office start yelling at each other (reason why I prefer to simply disappear)

Still baffled, because yours is a whole novel idea to me: angry communication, even toxic, aggressive and unpleasant is better than no communication. Not saying that I agree with it, but I'll think about it when dealing with some of my coworkers.

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submitted 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) by sarah2653@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/26365993

I'm the quiet, introverted one and I may be on the spectrum. I like to do my job and go home. I hate drama and drama queens and ignore people when they start gossiping. Many extroverts find that offensive and talk behind my back like teenagers do. This stupid drama is the only reason why I quit my job after finding a new one.

I agreed to stay 4 weeks with the company because some coworkers are actually grown ups, it is a breeze to work with them and I can use their experience to be a better professional.

Back to the immature ones: Past me would ignore their sarcastic and passive aggressive comments, which took a toll on me but now I have nothing to lose and I couldn't care less what they think of me, meaning I started to answer back using their same tone and so sarcastically and passive aggressively as them: they yell at me accusing of doing something on purpose, I politely tell them to calm down and to seek help.

Most of my coworkers are women. Since I started answering back and being a jerk, they toned their b%tchiness way down, it is more pleasant to work here now.

I don't understand why my coworkers treat me with some respect now that I'm being a jerk and I hate I have to be a jerk to be treated with a modicum of respect. I don't know if I'm wrong but I think they have an idea of what a man is supposed to be and now that I fit their definition of a man, they leave me alone because they see in me something familiar to them.

I find it sad I have to be an ass to be treated with respect and I hope to find a workplace where I can be myself and work with no drama.

Is this something that's going to happen no matter where I work?

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submitted 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) by sarah2653@lemmy.ml to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
 

I'm the quiet, introverted one and I may be on the spectrum. I like to do my job and go home. I hate drama and drama queens and ignore people when they start gossiping. Many extroverts find that offensive and talk behind my back like teenagers do. This stupid drama is the only reason why I quit my job after finding a new one.

I agreed to stay 4 weeks with the company because some coworkers are actually grown ups, it is a breeze to work with them and I can use their experience to be a better professional.

Back to the immature ones: Past me would ignore their sarcastic and passive aggressive comments, which took a toll on me but now I have nothing to lose and I couldn't care less what they think of me, meaning I started to answer back using their same tone and so sarcastically and passive aggressively as them: they yell at me accusing of doing something on purpose, I politely tell them to calm down and to seek help.

Most of my coworkers are women. Since I started answering back and being a jerk, they toned their b%tchiness way down, it is more pleasant to work here now.

I don't understand why my coworkers treat me with some respect now that I'm being a jerk and I hate I have to be a jerk to be treated with a modicum of respect. I don't know if I'm wrong but I think they have an idea of what a man is supposed to be and now that I fit their definition of a man, they leave me alone because they see in me something familiar to them.

I find it sad I have to be an ass to be treated with respect and I hope to find a workplace where I can be myself and work with no drama.

Is this something that's going to happen no matter where I work?

 

I'll go first:

doesn't treat his employees differently according to personal bias.

Wants his employees to become better and to earn more money.

Respects his employees' needs for solitude (yes, I'm an introvert and want to disconnect during my pause) and knows what boundaries are.

Doesn't leave you in the lurch. One of the reason why I quit my last job is that my manager, who loved to claim we're a team would always go to smoke with his friends, while I'd be taking care of business, something he never acknowledge. His pauses lasted always more than 30 minutes and I was supposed to always work more than him. Nope.

Is not a drama queen and has a life outside of the workplace.

Doesn't try manipulating me each time I call in sick.

Am I asking for much?

[–] sarah2653@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

it also guarantees that you’ll fail more often than not if you don’t get professionally trained help

would you DM me to explain what kind of help you got and how it helped?

If you're talking about masking, isn't it hard? like constantly being on edge pretending to be something you're not, faking being what extroverted neurotypicals want you to be.

At the workplace it would mean working 200%: doing my job and then constantly placating them. Who does that?

 

these 2 sentences have me thinking:

  1. I cannot change what others think about me or do, I can only change how to react to it.

  2. It’s not my fault, but it is my problem to deal with.

we had a merger and my department met our new manager. He seemed empathetic and approachable, asking us to stay at our current positions and work together.

I've been considering a change for some time because I don't get along with some coworkers, even though most are fine, but these 3 suck the life out of me.

So I sent this new manager an application that was rejected the next day:

"mr. X doesn't want to consider your application."

He didn't even read it. He seemed so approachable and friendly... this line seems specifically written to make me feel bad, or maybe I'm very thin skinned?

An adult would accept it and move on, but I'm so thin skinned I keep ruminating about it. I want to change how I react to this and other setbacks in life, but I feel powerless.

"It’s not my fault, but it is my problem to deal with"

I'm on the spectrum. I can hold a job, pay rent and healthcare, max my 401k..., but some of my coworkers find me robotic and rude and feel offended if I want to concentrate on my duties instead of talking to them, simply because if I don't do my job I'll be fired.

Not all of my coworkers are like this, but some simply don't see that I do the same they do, except gossiping and bantering, which I find a waste of time.

They feel offended because I like to keep to myself.

It is not fair and I hate it, but it is, apparently, my problem to deal with.

Except that I don't know how to deal with it. And I don't want to deal with it, because it is unfair that what others think and talk about you makes your career more difficult.

I didn't expect this post to be this long.

 

I don't talk about politics or religion at the workplace, yet there is a drama queen that loves just blurting out what she thinks to everyone around.

My way to go so far has been to ignore her, but sometimes I just want to yell at her how incoherent she is.

Then I'd be the one starting drama I guess...

I'm looking for advice to deal with these kind of people. I don't want to work listening to conspiracy theories.

 

weeks ago I found out I'm getting a bit fatter and I don't like that. I started running and working out 2 hours a day a week ago.

My diet so far: on a budget, but without extras like artificial sauces or ready to eat meals. I usually eat lots of whole bread without anything on it (I used to mix it with cheese or butter, but Iḿ cutting that out), lots of turkey breasts to prepare stews with tofu, veggies like cabbage, carrot and cauliflower, no pastries, no alcohol. No coffee but tea.

I invariably have to eat bread with my meals, because otherwise I won't feel full, but I also eat bread at night and apparently, carbohydrates are not supposed to be ingested that late. What could I substitute bread with?

I run before having breakfast, but I don't know if I should dinner less and reduce my bread intake at dinner. OTOH going to bed feeling hungry seems to be a bad idea, or am I supposed to go to sleep feeling hungry? Is there any advantage to doing this?

I may eat a cheese sandwich while at work if I have nothing else at hand.

What works for you?

 

my first choice has always been an aspirin, but most of my coworkers tell me I'm wrong and I should use ibuprofen first.

What's your take?

 

my supervisor is an extrovert, whereas I'm an introvert. She feels insulted if I don't share my personal life with her and ridicules me before other coworkers because I separate private and work life and prefer to keep to myself.

I wrote mobbing because that's what it feels to me: a ritual of hers is to always eat together, a time she uses to ask me questions I don't want to answer. I usually answer very vaguely, which is not enough for her. If I eat alone, she'll complaint about why am I being so unfriendly.

She doesn't understand I need time alone to unwind.

She is convinced she is doing me a favor, but the opposite is true. It makes me dislike her even more.

I simply cannot win. It's tiring being blamed and shamed for preferring to read a book instead of talking about dogs or sex.

It makes me want to quit.

I don't know if I go to HR with an issue like this, because they may label me the odd one, the one who's not a teamplayer and use it against me.

Most people are extroverted and react angrily to somebody who keeps to himself and I've been bullied several times for this. Extroverts don't seem to understand that not showing interest in their sexual lives doesn't mean disrespect, but simply that I don't care about it.