potustheplant

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[–] potustheplant 4 points 6 months ago (11 children)

If they were the ones promoting a service/product that they found out was a scam then yes, absolutely.

[–] potustheplant 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Sorry for not knowing that a game that released 1 month ago makes ray tracing mandatory.

Considering that most gamers don't even have ray tracing capable hardware (at least with decent performance), this seems like a pretty shitty and lazy decision.

My point still stands though. In most games it's not that much better and in the games where it is better, it has a very exaggerated performance impact. Personally, I prefer playing at 100+ fps.

[–] potustheplant 17 points 6 months ago (16 children)

Precisely one of Louis' points. LTT took the money to give Honey tons of exposure (aka millions of views) on their video channel and then they dropped them by making a forum post a few thousand may see. Those two things are pretty far from being the same.

[–] potustheplant -1 points 6 months ago (11 children)

No games "require" raytracing and the ones that support it may look better when you turn it on but it's not worth the performance cost.

[–] potustheplant 13 points 6 months ago

With a battery*

[–] potustheplant 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I know this barely means anything but it really is refreshing to have an interaction with someone who not only treats others respectfully but who is also able to admit they didn't know a part of the story.

It's obviously totally fine if you still don't agree with what I said or have other reasons to dislike GN or prefer LTT, but this type of attitude is precisely one of the things Reddit lost a long time ago.

That's all. Thank you <3

[–] potustheplant 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That said, I don’t think we know if LTT knew the entire story at the time.

This is also discussed in MegaLag's video. They did know at least about this issue affecting them, financially. So, they brought it up with Honey, who refused to make any changes. After that, they ended their sponsorship. If they didn't figure out the full extent of the issue, it's because they didn't want to. I doubt you seriously think they didn't have the resources to investigate further.

they would rather avoid the publicity for fear of retaliation, like they stated.

From who? Honey? If so, that's a very mistaken mentality. They basically decided to stay quiet about something that was demonstrably hurting creators and consumers out of sheer selfishness. Coming from linus, who seems to be rather narcissistic, that doesn't surprise me. It does suprise me that this excuse would be accepted by their viewers, who were negatively impacted by this decision. Again, if you see something, say something.

I still think GN goes out of their way to stir drama, whether it’s called for or not

Once again. Has there been an instance where it wasn't called for? I think they just have a very strict moral compass and they respect that regardless of any financial hit or extra work it might cause them. That's something I respect, a lot.

it sure seems like he just has an issue with Linus overall.

Did you read their post? Wouldn't you have a personal issue with someone who says you're autistic, quotes your work without actually quoting you, reaches out to your personal phone over random tweets because they think they're about them and also misrepresent you publicly?

For example, after the GN video, Linus said he reached out to Steve and was ignored. What actually happened was that linus sent a message to Steve's old phone, which they hadn't used for over 2 years. If you want more examples and details, you can read GN's post.

[–] potustheplant 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Wasn’t the issue with honey that the creators were being scammed?

I think you haven't watched MegaLag's video (at least not all of it) or other channels that covered this properly. As you can see in this section of MegaLag's video, Honey also hurt consumers because it claimed that there either weren't any coupons available when there were or it gave you a coupon that wasn't the one with the highest discount.

unless they were trying to specifically use the affiliate code to support their favorite creator.

Exactly. This also "hurts" consumers because, if I use an affiliate link, I want the channel I got it from to get that kickback so they can keep making content.

If they realized it was an issue and cut off their sponsorship because it was negatively impacting their own business and not the viewers, they have no reason to tell the viewers about it.

They do because the issue impacted both parties. Also, this is very cliché but also true, "if you see something, say something".

If you watch MegaLag's video, you'll also see that LTT then partnered with "Karma" (kinda ironic) which also does at least some of the same shady stuff Honey does. Here's the timestamped video.. They also ignored/refused to answer many of the questions MegaLag had.

it could open them up to a lawsuit with honey, and ultimately PayPal, who has a lot more money than a relatively large YouTube entertainment company.

GN, a smaller channel, is taking Honey to court so I don't see why a lawsuit would've scared them. They're also not alone, other creators and lawyers are doing the same thing. Honey will lose because there's undeniable proof that they've been stealing sales and offering coupon's that weren't actually the best to their consumers (if they offered any at all).

you have a responsibility as a business owner to ensure you can keep paying those people

While that's true, it's also true that the end doesn't always justify the means. Ethics are very important. Not only for yourself as the owner of the company but also to your employees and the audience.

I can’t see GN as anything but the annoying, self righteous redditor type who stands on his soapbox claiming everyone else is doing wrong and getting a sense of superiority out of it.

Again, you say this upsets you but can you point at a single case where they called out a company/product and were wrong? I really don't understand why you'd be upset about someone literally fighting and looking out for you.

Their content isn’t anything particularly special, so they have to drum up the view count by creating drama.

Please name other channels that review hw as well as they do. GN and Hardware Unboxed are the only ones that I know of that are actually decent. I don't see how you could consider them "not special". Considering not only their reviews but also all of their methodology videos, technical deep dives with industry workers and/or experts and factory tours.

at least hold them to the same scrutiny you would the channels they call out

I do, not sure why you'd say I don't. Is there anything specific you're referring to? Afaik, they have literally no problems with other youtubers and no one (that I know of) has generated any content denouncing them. The only thing I could criticize is that Steve seems to be a bit of a workaholic but, at least according to him, that's not something he demands of his coworkers.

[–] potustheplant 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)

They make money because people watch their videos and/or contribute directly to them by buying their products. I honestly see absolutely nothing wrong people supporting a channel that they like. Especially when they're not only producing content but also potentially burning down bridges with brands/sponsors when they need to call them out. If you look at Linus, on the other hand, he deliberately chose not to call out the issues with Honey over fear or repercussions. To this day I still don't understand why he would think that informing their viewers that they were being scammed would have any negative impact at all. Except, maybe, he wasn't thinking about his viewers...

It's really weird that you'd accuse GN of going after profits when Linus has repeatedly said, and shown, that that's precisely all he cares about.

[–] potustheplant 47 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Literally none of their "stirring up shit" videos (like the ones for msi, gigabyte, newegg, etc) have been neither unwarranted nor discredited. They've also all led to positive outcomes for consumers.

If you don't find it entertaining, don't watch it. I personally think that it's great to have people like them looking out for consumers.

[–] potustheplant 4 points 6 months ago

Por que no los dos?

[–] potustheplant -1 points 6 months ago (8 children)

QR codes were invented in 1994.

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