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China, for sure, has spies,... who doesn't. But the overwhelming majority of these cases tend to be non factual. Causes like fearmongering, departmental rivalries, someone wanted a medal, gathering prisoners for exchange, setting example, etc... are usually what is behind this. If I were a Chinese researcher, no matter the area of expertise, I would leave the US... and this is not Trump! This is the current US policy that all sides subscribe to.

I hear you! That is why I wanted to go with the definition of Fascism, but you are right. Let me rephrase it; If the world continues the path it is going, countries like Mexico seems to be a great bet to move in if you come with some good financial resources since you can compliment's government security with private methods ones (like a gated community). Mexico will likely be neutral in a global conflict. Likewise, Spain seems good because I don't see Spaniards been dragged by Brussels into any global conflict and if their American bases there get attacked, I see most people just ask to withdraw from NATO before entering in conflict themselves. Morocco, in spite I despise what they do to West Sahara's (in tents for 40 years) and its coziness with Israel, it is quite stable too... If Morocco leadership (and Spanish!) could only see how greatly they could benefit from the current situation if they both acted like Mexico... being neutral and be a beacon for skilled/affluent migrants and investment!

I find it pathetic. If politicians wanted to stop these violation they could. If I have a restaurant in town and the antitrust penalties is, by law, a maximum of 10% of my profits... considering a court ruling takes some 5-7 years that is an actual some 2% fine. What incentive is that from me to get rid of all my competition in town!? I would not stop my illegal practices even if fines where 10 times that!!

If we take its actual definition; far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist, countries like Cuba for sure fits the bill. Now Cuba is authoritarian (and normal since they are in permanent and genuine threat from its neighbor) and probably that is not what is in your mind. Latin America is, as many as you pointed out, no ideal... but most countries there at least lacks of a strong government to enforce things (for better or worse) so, in a turbulent world, it is indeed a better bet. I think, for the time being, Spain has proven to be resilient to authoritarianism and even the voters of "extreme" parties are not that extreme themselves! In Latin America, Mexico is proven to have an amazing leadership (today, I consider it the best worldwide) so unlikely to change overnight. Colombia, Chile and Uruguay seems promising too.

Re to your EDIT: Again, what did you see bad in my comments... wanted European Union no relying much on American corporations, favor impartiality from the FOSS community? What I don't understand from you so much concerned anti_Trump pro-democracy is that if Trump expels me (I am an European Union citizen in the US), and if I had some prominence he would, you will be the first one clapping. You are no so different from the ones you claim to oppose.

Sure... but in my statement with 9 claims you have not disproved a single one... but wasting plenty of time to all of us with "f*ck offs". Of course, it can be coincidental, but something gives me that if you are anti-establishment, odds are you can easily get disfranchised or disappeared in one way or another. What evidence Romania gave for the cancellation of the elections and banning the front runners... Russian interference?? How? with bots in social media really... have you seen any study published on that? Any.. do check?? The only thing I know is Romanians have been always highly skeptical of their government (that comes from the communist times) but since 3 ears ago are of all the latest EU rhetoric (although they benefit greatly from EU) and doubt Russia is responsible of that. Regarding "concern troll"... I disprove all basically all populist politicians, specially Le Pen, but also believe there is always a bit of truth in populism and burring or worse yet, ridiculing it, it is highly counterintuitive; address what they misunderstand. Brexit and Trump happened because of dismissive and insulting comments like yours addressed to people with concerns.

I see we are not going nowhere here, but I highly appreciate your effort to make me understand your view. Russia and China, let alone Cuba, Venezuela, Iran etc al want to develop an alternative from Android... how is it going? Only China is pulling it off, and after 5 years already and massive investment... just forking sure...

Just as a remark... "cannot legally become closed source". Do you really think the US is bound by any legality at this point?! And it is not just Trump... any President could scrap off any legality if it need be and lower courts could just complain all the want... Of the 100+ lawsuit cases Trump already has accumulated in 3 months you won't see much progress... and recently, even the US Supreme Court already gave Presidents "Broad Immunity for Official Acts" and "Absolute Immunity for Core Powers" so good luck for upholding GPL if an administration wants to force software out of it.

I am still no able to get my message through.

Of course, it is easy to fork, is that when you depend solely on a entity that it is prone to abandon you, you wont have the resources to continue the development. US has overwhelmingly all the developers of Fedora. If Fedora wins over all other linux based distros (and at this time it could be easily do in a near future), developers in other countries will move on into other projects (or move to the US). If the US, once Fedora is so clear dominant and Debian and Arch ceased to exists down the road, the US will find it compelling to close source Fedora and leave the rest of the world with a forked version but unable to develop for the time being since there is no Linux experts around left. This is not far fetched, this is what happens with Android and Firefox. If Firefox closes, the dudes in librewolf will survive for a few months (I'm in Librewolf), that is it; none of them are capable of keeping developing Gecko (the engine of Firefox). Imagine that Google close sources Android, no one in the world (besides Huawei) could keep develop it competitively for at least a decade!

I am afraid we are taking different things here... I look in a long perspective view, you in a inmediate future, where, as you said, no big changes if a dominant FOSS project goes hostile. The lack of expertise, culture makes it really hard in fact. Look at this... SWIFT (an interbanking payment system) , when US, in spite being European, dominates it completely, Russia and China has been for half a decade create and alternative... it is not a mayor technically difficult platform to replicate, but it is proven very hard... relying on it for decades had left every country at its merci and now that most of the world wants an alternative still could not come up with a viable alternative. Remember also when France/EU wanted to create a payment system with Iran... well, never came to fruition. Haven relying in the US for decades left Europe powerless for these innovations. The same could happen with Fedora if we start adopting it in mass.

So true eldavi! The "Russian kernel maintainers" event was a big red flag for me. I know Linux had no choice to expel them due to the law, but the fact that Linus Torvalds did not thank them for the job done (if he kept them till then , Torvalds clearly has see their contributions as beneficial), and Torvalds did not try to reassure the audience that hardly any code is posted unsupervised in a open source... that was the main scandal for me, far more than the ban. I had known that Torvalds was a rude person, many maintainers are and I am ok with that, but that event showed me that not only easily folds to government requests, but that also he believes it is ok to do these things against people you don't like...

In his own words; "please use whatever mush you call brains. I'm Finnish". I don't think he referred to the Finland that thrived the most in its history during the period of maintaining a strong military culture yet NEUTRAL (1948-2023) and away from NATO, but he deeply meant the Finland that sided with Germany in the early 40s in order to stick-it to Moscow. Would he stop at firing developers or would be willing to do more for the cause? I bet many wonder.