dajoho

joined 2 years ago
[–] dajoho@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

I hate to be that guy

That’s okay. Don’t be.

but OP gave no indication of their gender.

This is unnecessary white-knight pseudo-concern-trolling designed to derail from the topic at hand. This isn’t a conversation about gender. If I misgendered dontblink, I’ll send 5$ as an apology. You don't, however, get to choose the language I use, as I equally don't get to choose yours. Now, back to the Linux discussion:

Could you explain what exactly this “tight integration” pertains? AFAIK these are just regular old global-state distros but with read-only snapshotting for said global state (RPM-ostree, “immutable”).

Certainly. That’s essentially absolutely correct. In the case of Bazzite specifically:

  • Distrobox comes pre-installed, enabling application installation inside sandboxed Podman containers with restricted access to /dev. Unlike Toolbox, Distrobox can be configured with different and fully isolated home folders, meaning containers won’t have access to your GPG/SSH keys or other user files unless explicitly configured.
  • ujust is pre-installed (docs), providing helper scripts for various tasks, including easy virtualization setup for virt-manager/qemu/kvm for running completely isolated operating systems.
  • BoxBuddy is pre-installed, a GUI for easy management of distrobox containers, also allowing you to alias/sync .desktop files from sandboxes to your main home folder, allowing you to start sandboxed GUI apps from your normal GNOME/KDE menu.
  • Waydroid integration can be added via ujust, allowing launching of sandboxed, isolated Android apps directly from the desktop environment.

That is their one and only stated goal: Run games.

That’s incorrect. While gaming is their primary focus—especially with the "big-screen" edition that boots directly into Steam—Bazzite also offers fully functional, polished desktop environments with thoughtful defaults. For example, even if only an insignificant tweak, GNOME on Bazzite has minimize/maximize buttons enabled by default (unlike Fedora Silverblue). It also supports developer workflows and even isolated, containerized systemd services. (docs). They offer Bazzite editions which boot directly to the desktop environment as default, leaving Steam as only a normal Flatpak application.

Could you point out the specific concrete things Bazzite does to improve separation between applications beyond the sandboxing tools that are available to any distribution?

None, beyond having them pre-installed out of the box. But it's important to distinguish that dontblink asked for a solution, not the solution. I suggested Bazzite GNOME because it provides a nearly complete setup without needing to manually mess with rpm-ostree first. Everything it can do can also be done on other similar immutable systems with a little extra work.

[–] dajoho@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

He specifically mentions containerization, Flatpaks, Docker and Toolboxes, which these suggested Fedora Spins are designed to integrate with as tightly as possible, so completely relevant.

Also, Bazzite is completely the opposite of an OS designed to run one app at once, which means you haven't tried it before rubbishing it as a suggestion.

p.s. Don't take this the wrong way but the phrasing in your comments here make them sound quite aggressive and could lead them to be interpreted in the wrong way. Would you speak to someone like that on the street?

[–] dajoho@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Might be controversial as it is usually intended for gaming but: Bazzite (Gnome Edition). It is like Fedora Silverblue but has distrobox and virtualization baked in without fiddling AND... built in Waydroid so you can run Android apps. I am incredibly impressed with it.

[–] dajoho@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Doing the Lords work.

[–] dajoho@sh.itjust.works 54 points 3 weeks ago

Really brave of you to share this with us. I bet posting it was no small feet.

[–] dajoho@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Totally agree. It's not the fault of Firefox at all. This is just being trigger-happy on new standards before they are ready and unwillingness to fix a problem in a different way.

[–] dajoho@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

p.s. He is called Vimes outside of Germany. They, uh, "we" renamed him for German reasons.

[–] dajoho@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Found the German!

[–] dajoho@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 weeks ago

I do this. It's the "heap system". After a couple of months it gets full and I create a folder called "crap" and move everything inside it. After this, the process repeats itself and often leads to folder trees like C:\Users\dh\Desktop\crap\crap2\more crap\crap\important crap\crap.

This usually continues for the life of my computer and then, one day, it just gets wiped because buggered if I know what's in the crap folder..

[–] dajoho@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Good choice! Me too! Workstation on the PC and trying to learn Silverblue on the laptop. Have you played with Silverblue?

[–] dajoho@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The use case is more for server and linux-type operating systems but I bet there are some crazy folk who use it for their desktops. No idea!

 

The Anbernic Arc-D, running rocknix. This is surprisingly good at running many DOS games. I'm well chuffed with this.

 

Having a LOT of fun playing this. It's the talkie and MT-32 versions at the same time using SKYDRV.

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