BlueMonday1984

You're not wrong. Precisely how this AI debacle will strengthen copyright I don't know, but I fully anticipate it will be strengthened.

It hasn't been hashed out in court yet, but I suspect AI mickey will be considered copyright infringement, rather than public domain.

Is it just that these AI programs need no skill at all?

That's a major reason. That Grok's complete lack of guardrails is openly touted as a feature is another.

I've already seen people go absolutely fucking crazy with this - from people posting trans-supportive Muskrat pictures to people making fucked-up images with Nintendo/Disney characters, the utter lack of guardrails has led to predictable chaos.

Between the cost of running an LLM and the potential lawsuits this can unleash, part of me suspects this might end up being what ultimately does in Twitter.

Oh, that is beautiful to hear.

There's gonna be laws passed as a result of this - calling it right now.

If this turns out to be real, I suspect its gonna be a major shitshow - not only for the publisher, but for the AI industry as a whole.

For the publisher, they're gonna be lambasted for endangering people's lives for a quick AI-printed buck.

For AI, its gonna be yet another indictment of an industry that's seen fit to put technology, profits, basically everything over human lives - whether in the "AI Safety" criti-hype which implicitly suggests culpability for bringing about an apocalypse straight out of sci-fi, or in the myriad ways they are making the world worse right now.

I dunno, I know that legally we don’t know which way this is going to go, because the ai people presumably have very good lawyers

You're not wrong on the AI corps having good lawyers, but I suspect those lawyers don't have much to work with:

• Pretty much every AI corp has been caught stealing from basically everyone (with basically everyone caught scraping without people's knowledge or consent, and OpenAI, Perplexity, and Anthropic all caught scraping against people's explicit wishes)

• Said data was used to create products which, either implicitly or [explicitly]((https://archive.is/jNhpN), produce counterfeits of the stolen artists' work

• Said counterfeits are, in turn, destroying the artists' ability to profit from their original work and discouraging them from sharing it freely

• And to cap things off, there's solid evidence pointing to the defendants being completely unrepentant in their actions, whether that be Microsoft's AI boss treating such theft as entirely acceptable or Mira Murati treating the job losses as an afterthought

If I were a betting man, I'd put my money on the trial being a bloodbath in the artists' favour, and the resulting legal precedent being one which will likely kill generative AI as we know it.

oh god the slop machines are coming for the scientific world

Fixed the link - thanks for catching it.

Not a sneer, but something that'll inspire plenty of schadenfreude:

Brian Merchant: The artists fighting to save their jobs and their work from AI are gaining ground

Brian's done plenty of good sneers on AI, I'd recommend checking him out

Google’s Search Dominance Leaves Sites Little Choice on AI Scraping (no archive - archive.ph appears to have died)

Because Google literally can't stop being evil even when the world's eyes are on it