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My wife's phone dies every. single. day. and I don't know why she doesn't just charge it at night.

I'm just wondering how people live like this πŸ˜…

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[–] Dekkia@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I charge it during the day at work.

Boss makes a dollar I make a dime...

[–] janonymous@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

... that's why I charge on company time

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

I charge my phone at work ...

[–] kcvis@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I wfh and charge during work

[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Fire hazard.

I charge it at work while I'm (mostly) conscious. xD

[–] memphis@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Keeping Lithium-ion batteries at 100% charge will reduce their lifespan. They want to live in the 40-80% range. I use an app that notifies me when my phone has charged to 80%, so that I can unplug it. It may be overkill, but I plan to use this phone for 9 more years or so.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Both iphone and androids have an OS option to stop charging at 85 though - I keep it on all the time unless I'm going to need that extra bit of juice

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[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because I try to charge my phone when I am in the office, as much as possible. There are no small savings in my book :D

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[–] rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There's actually a safety factor there. When Li-Ion (lithium-ion) batteries fail and suffer thermal runaway (fire), it's most commonly during charging. It's rare, but it does still happen. The rule is to avoid charging Li-Ion powered devices unattended. I do that at times myself, but I realize the risk and actually put things in a "charging pot" if unattended.

You don't need anything fancy to use as a charging pot, a ceramic casserole dish will do. If you're going to charge while asleep or out of the house it's not a bad idea to use some kind of containment.

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[–] tmpod@lemmy.pt 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I used to never charge my phone at night, because of my battery health pedantry. I the found the AccA app which enables me to limit the maximum charging, so now I sometimes leave it changing during the night.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If you're still convinced you need to run your battery down to zero you're operating on outdated knowledge of NiCad batteries and ruining your lithium ion batteries.

My Android phone has a built in functionality to charge so that it hits 100% when your alarm is rigged to go off. Idk about iphone though.

[–] tmpod@lemmy.pt 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was not talking about running the battery down to 0, that's no good for li-ion batteries either. I was talking about the exact, opposite, reaching 100% and staying there for hours on end (which happens during the night). With AccA I can set an upper limit.

[–] Nugget_in_biscuit@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Hi Tmpod! This is actually a common misconception among the general device-using public!

You are absolutely correct that a NMC-chemistry lithium battery (this is the kind of battery used in phones) will degrade if you maintain a state of charge (β€œSOC”) for long periods of time that is either above 90% or below 10%. Of course, phone manufacturers know this too, and they have set the charging software to block off the top of the pack, which allows the user to safely leave their phone on the charger indefinitely.

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[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I use Samsung built in feature to limit to 85% and I'm so glad they implemented it because I was about to either try to look for an app again or stop charging at night...

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[–] gamebuster@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I don't want an exploding phone in my bedroom. I charge it at my desk while working

[–] Steinsprut@szmer.info 2 points 2 years ago

I have a wireless charger on my desk, pretty much almost every day I already have 100% when going to bed

[–] coffeekomrade@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I read to fall asleep, so my phone usually stays with me in bed. Pro-Tip, if she has an iPhone, set the Sleep focus to turn on at a specific time and enable low power mode.

[–] zettajon@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

For many years I always did this for my own android phone in Tasker, and more recently Samsung Modes&Routines, but thank you for this as I just realized I never did the same for my wife's iPhone

[–] sneakyninjapants@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I feel this pain. Wife's battery-powered devices are always in a constant state of dying. Something has convinced her that it's better to let the battery almost! die, then charge it to full, but not leave it plugged in because that will degrade the battery; meaning it never gets charged overnight. I'm sure there's a small kernel of truth in where she learned that, but it's almost a joke at this point when she goes scrambling for her charger when using her phone, tablet, etc. It's painful, but also adorable? I guess. Anyway, it's not a hill I'm willing to die on, so I just let it be and laugh almost everytime it happens.

[–] Zamboniman@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

Something has convinced her that it’s better to let the battery almost! die, then charge it to full, but not leave it plugged in because that will degrade the battery

That was true a long time ago when NiCad batteries were around. But, since they had the problems you described, they're not around any more, and phones generally all use lithium-ion batteries which don't have this issue.

[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think that was true like.. 10+ years ago, but battery and power management tech have advanced so that's no longer necessesary. I think running full cycles on your battery is actually bad for it now, I set mine to stop charging when it hits 85% to preserve battery health.

Sounds stressful constantly worrying about battery life, plopping it on a wireless charger before bed is the way to go.

[–] Captain_Shoe@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I would love if iOS had a "stop charging at 85% option" like that. What I currently do is a shortcut routine with a wireless charger connected to a smart plug that turns off the plug when the phone reaches 85%. It works, but I would love to be able to have it work without a smart plug routine.

[–] killall-q@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

She needn't worry about manually optimizing battery wear, and, in fact, the most harmful thing you can do to a battery is to fully deplete it frequently.

Educate her about built-in optimized battery charging. iPhones and some Androids have it.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

This. My wife and I have that setting turned on on our Samsung phones. Mine is 3 years old and I still get all-day battery

[–] Racchio@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I just turn it off, and it generally need to recharge in the next day afternoon.

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Laziness. The cord is always on the floor, and I don't want to have to reach down there.

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

when i see people's phones constantly at, like, 12%, it drives me crazy.

[–] BreakNeckJim@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Haha it's always funny with screenshots posted on social media, like 4% I'm sweating πŸ˜…

I have a wireless charging stand at work, so my phone is nearly 70% charged when I go to bed. No real point to me in having extra clutter on my nightstand.

On the weekends, I’ll charge my phone on the kitchen counter while making breakfast for the kids.

[–] sephi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

I charge in the morning.

[–] DrFuggles@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Same thing with my girlfriend. I even got a charger and a cable just for her exclusive use but she keeps unplugging my phone because "it has more charge than mine". Which, fair, but like??? It didn't have to be this way??

[–] Lewistrick 1 points 2 years ago

On days I don't WFH, I charge my phone in the car. My commute is 2 hours per day which is sufficient.

[–] mcc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Like, you went through your day exhausted and want to finally make a decision to go to bed for yourself, but no you have to remember to connect the USB cable.

Get her a wireless charger stand.

[–] outer_spec@lemmy.studio 1 points 2 years ago

they forgor

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