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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

I feel like WhatsApp should be in the middle. The app is terrible, but the messaging is actually encrypted. We paranoids also appreciate Signal, and Element disappointingly gets no play here.

Also:

*believes not every company is inherently evil*

It's kind of weird, then, how they all end up doing evil stuff, including the guys that explicitly set out with the philosophy "don't be evil".

We can all tell conservative is supposed to be the enlightened one, but unless the creator is using a very malice-driven definition of evil (as opposed to including accidental evil) this line is an own-goal.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

actually encrypted

Last time I checked (which has been a while admittedly) they used their central server for key exchange, meaning the whole encryption is compromised.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fuck anything created by Facebook. It wouldn't surprise me if the EFF released an announcement today saying that Facebook always had a master encryption key and have hard records of every conversation ever had on WhatsApp. Actually, I'd be willing to bet real money that is the case, if there was any way to actually resolve that bet.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago

It wouldn’t surprise me if the EFF released an announcement today saying that Facebook always had a master encryption key and have hard records of every conversation ever had on WhatsApp.

Literally not possible, from what I've read of the scheme involved. I haven't looked over it myself but I trust Open Whisper.

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[–] pascal@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (5 children)

What a bunch of bullshit.

I self-host my stuff because it's cheaper, I run Gentoo since the last 15 years and use Chrome because it's just better and friendly. I also have a Xperia android phone and really, really don't like MKBHD.

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[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Somewhere between Normie and Tech conservative?

Real bummer that Signal decided to shit the bed.

[–] notabotactually@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Wait what happened to Signal?

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[–] athlon@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

I guess I am a cross between “Normie” and “Conservative”. I use macOS and Fedora daily, I watch MKBHD but also watch FOSS YouTubers. I use WhatsApp, but only because, in Netherlands, it’s impossible to live without it. I don’t use any Chromium, and I use Firefox, but I also use Safari.

Fuck getting labeled.

[–] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

I think I'm somewhere in between two and three.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Tech conservative, apparently. Although fuck big tech, you can achieve the sake thing with decentralised federated services or blockchain (in some cases).

[–] NothingSpecial@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Tech conservative. Still use Windows unfortunately.

[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

gotta check out luke smith

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