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Highlighting that in the article researchers found that the average chat with ChatGPT is the equivalent of dumping one bottle of water on the floor.

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[–] SJ0@lemmy.fbxl.net 14 points 2 years ago

It's important to remember that not every litre of water is the same as every other liter of water.

It's really important to watch water use if you're using groundwater in Texas or California, but water is a renewable resource in many places and it isn't a problem to use water as long as it's properly managed. For example if you remove water from a river, purify it, use it for something benign like cooling making sure not to add anything to it, process it so you're not impacting the ecosystem, then return it to the same river, then you've used water, but you didn't really consume anything.

On the other hand, if you polute that water, or you damage local ecosystems, or if you're pulling water out of non-renewable sources, that's a problem. Environmentalism must be local, there are few universal answers.

[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Someone with a degree weigh in here. All these big tech companies are buying 100% sustainable energy, reducing their carbon footprint YOY, but it doesn’t seem to be making a difference on global GHG.

What accounts for the increase? Purely population increase plus consumption?

[–] Gnubyte@lemdit.com 6 points 2 years ago

Not a degree holder for this topic but my significant other works in renewable energy. A lot of these companies actually just buy and sell "renewable" credits which is legal in the US so they can make the claim. They themselves do not have to be using renewable energy. IE if I am LemmyCorp and I have genuine renewable energy, I can get it certified and sell my credits to BananaPhoneCorp.

It is not always the case, but it is quite popular. Rivian's CEO made a remark on it today: https://www.theverge.com/23803541/rivian-solar-kentucky-ppa-ceo-scaringe-interview

[–] nyar@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Due to constant growth being a requirement of our economic system, implementation of renewables results in the prior non renewable energy being consumed by another entity.

[–] noneabove1182@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The article doesn't address it, maybe someone here can.. what does "consumed" mean? Where does the water go after it's used to cool? Surely it's reusable, right?

[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To add to what the other person said, I went looking and couldn’t find any solid answers. Part of it might be that Google considers their water use details as proprietary information they’re not keen on sharing, and there’s so many sites in so many different jurisdictions that I’d be surprised if there was an overarching solution.

I thought this article went into it decently: https://time.com/5814276/google-data-centers-water/

[–] Fuzzypyro@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We have this amazing process for saving water. Shame on other company for not using a similar method. By the way we aren’t sharing how we do it and if you happen to do a similar method and release those details we will likely cry corporate espionage.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

They're saving water the same way VW lowered their emissions (lying about it).