Lemmy world was growing at a decent pace leading up to July 1st, then had a big influx following the API deadline. However the last week in particular has seen a decline.

Engagement still appears to be the same, although a little lower than the start of the month. A few of the other instances i have been checking follow a similar pattern.

Do you think we will continue growing at a steady pace, or do we need another big trigger to get users to migrate? For Mastodon, it seems there's a big trigger every other week to drive users away from Twitter, but with Reddit, the revolt seems to have quietened down considerably.

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[–] anewbeginning@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Don’t imagine for a second that Reddit is done pissing off its users. All it takes for lemmy to win is keep improving reliability and usability.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Seeing as how the servers keep on doing down or there are other similar problems, I'm not sure Lemmy could handle the traffic even if it did stay. And there are far too many subs with next to zero traffic which only makes the whole site look kind of sad. You are better off having 1/2 as many subs with 2x the engagement that they currently have.

[–] GroggyKon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It will always be like that. If 100 people come here for the first time on one day its great if 10 end up staying till the end of the week and lurking and out of those 10 maybe 1 would end up staying for longer. Thats just how these things work.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Fortunately, this effect is stronger with Facebook’s Threads even though they likely paid celebrities to join. I think the anti-Zuck sentiment is going strong and Lemmy does not have major controversies around it. Also, if users pass the somewhat high barrier to join, they might be more likely to want to use the account once it’s been set up.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

I see two big events in the coming weeks

release of Sync and Boost for Lemmy
Reddit actually killing 3rd party access and old.reddit

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, no, kinda.

(I am basing all this on these stats: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats)

First, the most detailed statistics show "Active Users Monthly". That means, if you have any interaction (e.g. posting a comment) you will be counted as active for a whole month.

If you have a look when the decline first started, you'll see that it's right around one month after the Reddit blackout.

So what happened is that tons of people came to Lemmy during the blackout, tried it out for a few minutes, maybe posted a comment, and then dropped it again. They were still counted in the statistics until the 12th of July, which is when the drop starts in the statistics, because all these "single-day-users" are dropping out.

But: the drop from the highest point to now is only ~10% of the users. Other than that the user count seems to be kinda stable.

For more up-to-date numbers look at the post/comment counts, since they are daily. Here you see a linear, maybe slightly more than that, increase, which indicates a steady amount of interaction.

Btw, the number of total users is steadily decreasing, and that's a good thing. The reason for that is that there are lots of obscure instances with a handful of active users but 10k-90k of users who have never posted anything. These instances usually have open registration without captcha, so all these users are probably bots.

Since these instances don't actually have real users or content, they probably were just created by someone to try something out, so they keep getting closed, and with them, the bot accounts disappear.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Things take time, progress ebbs and flows. I think there's a critical mass of good content and interesting people here and over time people will use it more. Just keep participating and ignoring the corporate sites.

For example, the friends that started using Reddit because of me are still on Reddit, but I'm pretty sure they'll find their way here. Change isn't something that everyone jumps on.

[–] kowcop@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago

People will go where the content is.. all it will take is one massive event where Lemmy is the source

[–] Wooly@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Anyone who would've left Reddit has already done so, they may be a small increase when Boost/sync becomes available but I doubt we'll see much growth. No one has ever heard of Lemmy.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nah, spez isn’t done with his halfwit ideas. Wait till they kill old.reddit

Don’t forget they are planning on going public and spez says they need profits. Profits generally come at the expense of pissing people off.

Wait and see.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Depending on his share of the company (which may change after going public), he might be forced to resign. However, I don’t think that would reverse the process as he apparently surrounded himself with like-minded people (similarly, Neal Mohan continued Susan Wojcicki’s work as well)and the movement towards profitability at all costs and enshtiitfication is natural course of action for the company following its bottom line.

[–] nicolairathjen@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One thing Lemmy is missing is a way to join that doesn't require you to understand the fediverse - currently the barrier of entry is quite high. Also, there aren't any great user interfaces yet, which makes the platform difficult to use.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Yeah. A good app is Thunder but still lacks key functionality like ~~editing comments~~ or proper Markdown rendering.

Also, if I see a link to another Lemmy instance’s post, I have no idea how to log in with an account on another Lemmy instance or another Fediverse service. Integrating OAuth-like Sign in with... functionality into ActivityPub would help a lot, especially if you get automatically logged into all instances whitelisted by your instance’s admins. However, that would require either a centralized server (which erodes Fediverse principles), cross-site cookies (which likely don’t exist for obvious tracking reasons) or a browser extension (which is browser-specific and an entry barrier for users, and could introduce security vulnerabilities).

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Liftoff works better in those situations, you always have the option to "see this from that instance", it's very good

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That‘s been my main issue with Liftoff: This content was retreived via lemmy.world. You are not logged in there. Now I found the option. Thanks!
Now I just need a way to remove lemmy.world from the app (edit: you can by long-pressing it in the Accounts menu) and rid my All feed of duplicates fetched via different instances; then it will be the perfect app.

[–] Cubes@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Not sure if you've used it for a bit, but Thunder allows you to edit comments now

Edit: edited from Thunder

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[–] TheNightBird@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If you build it they will come

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