need a backup of a backup these days
this post was submitted on 27 Nov 2023
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Never forget,"the cloud" is just someone else's computer.
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damn... how could this happen?
Amazing website. I'm unable to load the last 10 messages. It says it loads them sucessfully but it does nothing.
The people in there are acting like they only uploaded their files to Google Drive? Is "I'll dump all my files on that one place" a common practice? I know it might be mainstream, but one guy says his company's files were only on there..How is something so important to you just backed up into one place? Not even locally? These commenters in that support thread are very odd.
It's "the cloud" man...don't worry about it. This is essentially the attitude I've heard even from professional IT people. I have stuff in Google Workspace, but nothing critical, and even then I'm also paying CloudAlly to back it up for me.
No Backup, No mercy
When you're performing a backup, a backup alarm (like on certain vehicles) should be sounding. That would remind you of what's happening.
Ehh better to nag when something goes wrong rather than expecting me to notice something suddenly isn't there.
...and on top of this, also something that repeatedly warns when a successful backup wasn't performed within the last X days.
As sometimes the issue is that the backup just never triggered to start in the first place.
Also saves time looking into old warnings that have since come good.
Sucks that so many systems don't do this. I ended up writing my own thing that wraps all my cronjobs etc, and sends the exitcode + output to one of my web servers. Every type of "checkin" has an expiry period so that it's marked as an "expired" form of failure if it just hasn't been heard from within X hours/days.
Currently got 870 things doing regular checkins. Really sucked handling that in the past just using emails, which didn't even get sent if the thing didn't run in the first place, and didn't tell me not to bother looking into it if it was already working again since the email sent.
Really interested when we, hopefully, read the press statement from them regarding how much data was lost, even temporarily!
Almost no chance of that ever happening.
News reports coming in.
https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/27/google_drive_files_disappearing/
Makes you go...Hmmmm... LOL
Not really. Google has been getting progressively worse at search for years. The results were probably there, you just didn't see them under all the ads and sponsored results (AKA more ads).
Good reminder to back mine up.
Yup, doing a full local backup of all my Google data now. GDrive client hasn't been syncing for a few days on a couple of my machines for a couple weeks, but everything looks to be there.
I was affected!! It's so strange, first time something like this happened to me, it's like I won a local lottery or something, don't know what to feel now.
All my newer files are still there, but the older ones and all bin, zip, tar and 7zip are not there anymore.
So glad I started the homelab / self-hosted thing a few weeks ago, I have copies of everything locally on multiple storages.
As the stickied post said, we shouldn't rely on cloud storage because X, Y, and Z but good god the whole point of these companies buying out missile silos, building in tons of redundancy, etc. was to prevent this shit. Google's billions are no better than my $500 NAS, it would appear.
Not your keys, not your coins. Wait, where am I?
Buttcoin moment