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[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Is it an oven? 👍 Is it a microwave oven? 👍 Is it a countertop microwave oven? 👍 Can it grill food? 👍 Is it a grill microwave oven? - exceeded the question limit, big reveal, answer was "microwave". Interesting but I wasted a lot of questions trying to determine what kind of microwave it was because "microwave oven" was not accepted.

[–] dom@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Even saying "oven" as correct threw me off. Ive never called a microwave an oven or a microwave oven. I was like starting to think maybe it wanted a specific brand of oven, or a synonym like stove

[–] Skwerls@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 years ago

Well actually....

An oven is something you put food in to cook by heating the air inside of it.

A range is the burner portion.

A stove is a combination of the two.

Yes this is pedantic and I agree that they're often used interchangeably

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[–] johan 18 points 2 years ago

I thought I was done when I guessed oven, but there was no clear feedback saying I won. Went to the comments for the actual answer.

So my feedback: fun game! If possible, perhaps add something like "very close" if you guess something that's almost the answer but not quite. Or oven could have just been wrong, since that wasn't the actual answer.

[–] GreenPlasticSushiGrass@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

It said that it wasn't bigger than a housecat. That threw me off.

[–] salvaria@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You know, I had the same thought of asking if it was bigger than something, and this happened:

⭐ Quizzle 18 1/20

🟩

https://quizzle.game

I was actually a little disappointed I didn't get to play more!

[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Clearly you meant a cat as big as a house.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago

Mine said it was bigger than a cat

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[–] SendMeBakedBeans@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Y'all gotta put spoiler tags on your shit

[–] hasnt_seen_goonies@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I thought it was broken, because I asked if it was an oven, and it said yes... And then nothing. Just a bit confusing to people who don't understand AI and fuzzy answers.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm hesitant to say that the current word is a bad choice, but it feels far too specific to me. I'm curious what questions one could ask after finding out that it's a type of f___ that would lead to the exact type of f___ that it is.

Again, I'm hesitant to criticize the decision, because it's entirely possible that I'm just dumb and gave up too soon

[–] eriner@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'd rate this one "black diamond" level for sure.

My Questionsis it alive? 👍

is it an animal? 👍

is it a land animal? 👎

is it a salt water fish? 👍

is it a tropical fish? 👍

is it commonly consumed in America? 👎

is it a common fish in home aquariums? 👎

is it a common fish in public aquariums? 👍

does it have a distinct color? 🤷‍♂️

is it larger than a bread box? 👎

is it a keystone species? 🤷‍♂️

is it a character in the movie Finding Nemo? 👍

Is it larger than one foot in length? 👎

does it have unique characteristics that differentiate it from other fish? 👍

is it a clown fish? 👎

is it an angler fish? 👎

is it a deep sea fish? 👎

is it a seahorse? ⭐

[–] ConsumptionOne@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago

Agreed. I narrowed it down to a small species of ocean fish that was featured in Finding Nemo, but couldn't figure out how to pin down a specific species.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

I feel the same way to be honest, with the current question I did it all the way through and I was at odds end of what I could ask it aside from just straight out asking if it's a specific type, third question in was the exact one that you spoilered out and yet I wasn't even able to get a general ballpark of what it was in the next 17 questions.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Lmao I got the answer 11 questions in, but because I called it a "microwave oven" instead of just a microwave, it didn't count as correct until I asked "is it a microwave?" for my last question

[–] eriner@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We've implemented a fix to make it more lenient. Sometimes the synonyms and spellings catch us off guard ("raccoon" vs "racoon"), but we should have known about this one! Sorry about that.

+CC @theparadox@lemmy.world

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

I had fun anyway, and ain't playing competitively. Long as I know I got it right, I'm happy!

[–] Stamets@startrek.website 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I like the concept but some of the answers can be really misleading.

Can be carried, is found in classrooms, not made of plastic, and inexpensive. None of that points towards a microwave for me. Microwaves CAN be carried I guess, but who has microwaves in classrooms? My microwave has plastic cowling on the front, and microwaves are like 70-100 bucks the last time I checked. Some of that is on me for the phrasing (does it contain plastic I guess should have been used, as an example) but it's a bit odd.

[–] hasnt_seen_goonies@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I agree, but I definitely had microwaves in my classrooms (small school, we would eat in classrooms).

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 2 years ago

20 hours until I can play again?! C'mon...

[–] StThicket@reddthat.com 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I came as far as asking: is it an oven 👍 Then: is it a stove 👎 Then wtf is it???

I never in my life have considered a microwave to be an oven, but obviously it is. I've never had one, so I have limited experience with it.

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[–] Fisherswamp@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Apparently microwaves aren't made of metal >:(

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[–] BudgieMania@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oooh this is a cool concept, thanks for sharing! I'll add it to my rotation of stuff to play on my conmute.

I threw some weird questions here and there to see if it had issues, it didn't know how to answer either of these:

-Does its name start with a vowel?
-Does its name have less than ten letters?

Although that might have been due to my clumsy wording.

[–] eriner@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

LLMs tend to perform poorly with questions about linguistic characteristics of words. We have tuned responses to gently discourage questions like that. We also feel that they're kind of "cheating" at this sort of game. :)

Glad you enjoy it!

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I asked the same question (does it start with a vowel) and agree that it shouldn't answer even if it could but I have a suggestion: use a different emoji than the "I don't know" one to mean "that's kinda cheating"

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[–] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's a cool one called chronogram that has an AI pretending to be an historical figure. You basically have a conversation to figure out who they are. It's pretty cool, but now it requires you to sign up or use a Google account, which is a bummer

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[–] secondaccountlemmy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

i made the mistake of checking the comments before playing so...

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[–] SnowmenMelt@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I got a no for can you hold it so I was sure it was a normal oven. You can definitely hold a microwave they're not that big 🤣

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[–] omgarm 7 points 2 years ago

I got it in 19, but only because I asked if it was smaller than a house cat and I thought raccoons were larger.

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Does its prevalence cause existential dread due to consumerism in the western hemisphere? 👎 Does it make chicken rubbery? 👍

[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

This is interesting. I'd like to see more words.

[–] jack@monero.town 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Can I wear it? 👎 Is it a microwave? 👍

This is too easy

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[–] Ifeelya@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I asked "is it famous?" 👍

I asked "is it in North America?" 👎

It was an oven lol.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Actually the lastest one isn't an oven as the final answer. My wife asked that and was like, "so why isn't it over??"

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[–] pornrush@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It said yes when I asked if the answer was a carnivore, but the answer was an omnivore.

[–] bogdugg@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

It might be because they are part of the Order 'carnivora', so in that sense they are carnivores even though they are omnivorous.

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[–] austinfloyd@ttrpg.network 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The AI seemed to struggle with scientific names for #19.

The question

spoiler"Is it in the Actinopterygii class?"
was answered as no, though the correct answer should have been yes.

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[–] RandomlyRight@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

It’s a really cool concept! Not much to improve regarding the UI. One small thing is, I found the thumbs up or down a bit less intuitive than seeing the answer spelled out

[–] fhek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I had no idea a ______ could be considered food…..

What.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago

I asked if it was edible and got a no.

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[–] hazardous_area@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nice. I got 17 and I would debate the size of that versus a bread box. Still got pretty much everything else right

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[–] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Those don't live in Europe or Africa? Huh.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How does this work? You can't possibly have all these questions hard coded. Is it asking something like ChatGPT "does an X eat meat?"

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah I noticed the past two days already that it answers with an LLM, and that of course gets stuff wrong quite frequently.

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