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[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You know. I would try to fight this as a statement if we did not put in our constitution that slavery is fine for prisoners.

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

The original document had the 3/5 compromise

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[–] lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (4 children)

OMG guys americabad amirite

[–] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 32 points 2 years ago (9 children)

This could apply to any number of countries and it's getting kinda tedious. It's like a bunch of American teenagers just learned that their history books aren't telling the whole story and literally cannot stop talking about it. You hit college level history, congratulations, good for you champ.

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[–] Gbagginsthe3rd@aussie.zone 23 points 2 years ago

Well yeah… in lots of ways.

Good in others, as an Australian who traveled there the average American is great. I just think you’ve been intentionally fragmented and manipulated. So there are large groups of people who want their country to change but cannot seem to find common ground and band together to strengthen those ideas.

Then you have such powerfully rich and crazy groups that seem to be able to rule the narrative

[–] Sirosky@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Had to check to make sure I wasn't on Reddit again.

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

I had to check too cause "americabadamirite" complaints are basically peak Reddit since the Digg migration and shortly after.

Before then, I feel like I remember it being a lot less defensive about people daring to...criticize America

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago
[–] DrMux@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (4 children)

There's a huge difference between "lol le dum fat burger chez merica" and commentary about the history of the country and the patterns, systems, and dark truths that made it what it is today. Is there any one element in this meme that you'd argue is false?

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[–] Little8Lost@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you mean the united military budget of 50 3 world countries

[–] BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Or 10-11 top military leading countries in the world?

[–] simple@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (9 children)
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[–] Fhek@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Murica 💩

[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago
[–] redditcunts@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Can you define tankie? Because I don't think that word means what you think it means

[–] Shit@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Authoritarianism leftists are tankies. To be fair they are pretty much the same as authoritarianism rightists. They both want to abolish liberalism before they duke it out over economic models.

[–] nekat_emanresu@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You are right about the definition of tankies. People forget that views can be shared by varied groups. Pretty much liberals and to their left would agree with this message.

[–] Shit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

? Liberalism is an updown issue not a left right issue? You can be economically right and be a liberal...

[–] nekat_emanresu@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I struggled to understand at first. You are talking in terms from the messed up 2 axis political compass thing? Ideologies have positions in simplified lists and axis, but you have to be careful of oversimplifying them. That system to me is propaganda to deligitimise groups like my own(anarcho-pacifist). The opposite of totalitarianism is anarchism. Libertarianism got co-opted, it used to be anarchism and is now the totalitarianism of capitalism with the smallest government.

Liberals if you want to put it that way, are pro-capitalist, relatively socially progressive. I think the standard left/right thing messes up the tankie position, which makes this quadrant thing even more awkward.

Sorry for the messy answer. Feeling a bit tired and wanted to answer you

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[–] animist@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Eh this is one of those times that a broken tankie clock is correct

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[–] GrandFunkMonorail@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The US has capitalism? Seems pretty regulated by people bought by corporations to me.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's...capitalism. In a profit-seeking society, there's no greater profit than taking control of the society's government. There's no such thing as "crony capitalism" if that is what you are referring to. It's all a part of the game. Any sufficiently powerful company will eventually attempt to manipulate the law and regulations for their own gain.

The Soviet Union is basically what it would look like if a single corporation managed to completely take over society and push out all competition. That's why some people argue that it was a type of society known as "state capitalist", instead of communist, since they never actually did away with money, class, or hierarchy.

Another good example would be "Buy-N-Large" from the movie "Wall-E", although from reading the backstory on them, it seems like a more benevolent entity than we would expect from such a monopoly. Faced with declining profits from a failing economy and environment due to their grip on it, they implemented a system of universal income so that they could continue to have customers. They slowly became the world government and effectively operated as one.

[–] words_number@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oof level: over 9000

(Yes, old memes are back!)

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Also salty level: over 9000

[–] Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Obviously those things (except capitalism and some wars) are bad, but literally every country has a history of essentially the same thing.

[–] MetaCubed@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Obviously all those things ~~(except capitalism and some wars)~~ are bad

Ftfy

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