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[–] Silverhand@beehaw.org 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I remember when Star Citizen first started being talked about I was worried I wouldn't be able to run it on my GTX 770 lol. Both that gpu and any desire to play star citizen have been gone for years.

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[–] smolgumball@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Absolutely no way Star Citizen isn't a massive scam. I mean, people can be incompetent, but

over $580 million

...seems like it has to be some kind of upper limit of incompetence?

[–] melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's subject to absurd feature creep and overambition, in addition to regular ol incompetence.

The design goals for Star Citizen are kinda absurd. It's like how the No Man's Sky devs claimed at one point they'd individually simulate air molecules and a unique periodic table, except the difference is that NMS axed that (or more accurately, were never actually doing it) instead of spending the next decade trying to make it work.

At the same time, it helps that their supporters have essentially given them a financial incentive to keep adding feature creep instead of releasing, because if they release a game they can't keep asking for more donations for increasingly lofty goals.

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This game is going to be No Man's Sky 2.0. I'm calling it now. Watching that whole demo the other day, all I could think of was, yep, no man's sky of 2023.

No disrespect to No Man's Sky, because they got that game pretty much sorted. Not sure Bethesda will ever throw that much resources, especially with this news, at Star Citizen. I'll be waiting for the first Steam Sale, and only if they have it mostly sorted by that point. Their track record isn't awesome, in that regard.

[–] melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You're definitely thinking of Starfield, which is the new Bethesda game. Star Citizen won't be No Man's Sky 2.0, because Star Citizen is never going to come out.

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

You are definitely right! Can't keep my star games straight anymore lol

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[–] setsneedtofeed@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s a different kind of beast.

NMS released. They put it in a box and said “This is the finished game”. It was then torn to shreds and the long road of updates was a redemption story for an already released product.

Star Citizen will NEVER be done. It will always exist in some weird development alpha-beta limbo. It’s never going to go on Steam or shelves as a finished product. This allows the developers cover to always say the game is in development as a shield against any and all criticism. From their perspective it’s kind of perfect. Fans throw money at it endlessly and the development never really needs to reach a coherent state of being finished. Why would they ever want to actually release a finished game?

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[–] spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think you're thinking of Starfield?

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[–] SaltySalamander@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (4 children)

To have spent that much money and yet not have anything really resembling a game, just a glorified tech demo, is pretty sad.

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I have a friend who just got into Star citizen and I just don't understand why. There are actual games to play.

[–] LilBagOfBunnies@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know what you mean, but even the idea of "getting into Star Citizen" doesn't make sense to me because, well...what in the world is there really to get into beyond the few demos they released?

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[–] alternativeninja@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This game is a scam at this point. Half a billion dollars and all people have gotten is a glorified tech demo. Yet they continue to sell ships for hundreds of dollars a pop.

I used to be a believer, one of my worst purchases ever.

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Almost bought it when they posted the first Squadron 42 trailer in... 2019? The one with all those great actors. I thought it was almost ready at that point, at least the story part.

Then I remembered to never preorder anything, when it comes out, it comes out, and if it's good, then great, I'll get it then.

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[–] Kaldo@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I was so excited 10 years ago for star citizen. I played eve online and was in a corporation there with my best friends at the time, I couldn't wait until the day we'd all be standing together on the bridge of a ship and actually fly together for a change.

It's just been a downhill disappointment since then, with CR seeming more of a scam artist with every lie he'd make over the years and SC getting further away from that initial dream. I tried it a year or two ago and it's barely functioning, and even less of a game. I thought that by 2020 we'd have at least SQ42 for sure, but not it looks like they can't complete even that.

And the community still eats it up and defends the project vehemently. I've never seen such a fanatical fanbase that can't see what's in front of their eyes. And I'm still not even angry about it... just sad and disappointed.

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[–] JackOverlord@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Same.

I wasn't convinced at the very beginning, but once they had the hangar demo out, with that insanely detailed, intractable spaceship, I was so impressed I spend about a hundred dollars on it to "help development".

At this point I've long since given up hope this mess will be finished in a reasonable timeframe. I'm just glad Starfield is coming up and from the trailers and interviews it's looking like a suitable replacement.

And since it's the creation engine again, any major or minor mistakes will have a mod that fixes them sooner or later.

[–] TheTrueLinuxDev@beehaw.org 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

They rewrote their engine and framework multiple times, this kind of stuff is stupidly complicated to do. I think they originally went with Cryengine, Amazon Lumberyard, and whatever else by now. So yeah, the problem is, they are rewriting everything from scratch multiple times that they fail to make any deliverable. They basically netscape themselves to hell.

[–] hodgepodgehomonculus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Lumberyard was just a fork of cryengine, that's not what required a rewrite. They threw away all the FPS work that they hired a company to make for them, and redid that from scratch, and then also just rewrite systems all the time because they have no plan.

[–] Kaldo@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago

But even that was like 5+ years ago, ancient history by software dev standards. It's hardly an excuse for the state it's in today.

[–] TheTrueLinuxDev@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

Well honestly, I remember they did mentioned that it require a rewrite on various parts for transition from Cryengine to Lumberyard though it been years.

[–] Bipta@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

That's a great article.

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[–] patchymoose@beehaw.org 20 points 2 years ago

The development of this game makes construction of a nuclear power plant look timely and cheap.

[–] SemioticStandard@beehaw.org 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Xanvial@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago

this is worse than announcement of announcement of teaser trailer

[–] nii236@lemmy.jtmn.dev 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So it'll be better than all those games combined right?

[–] Seytoux@lemmy.one 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Los@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does anyone realistically expect this game to come out?

[–] setsneedtofeed@beehaw.org 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Its supporters bounce between “It’s already out!” and “Developing such a huge game takes time.” depending on which stance is more convenient in an argument.

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I was a $20 Kickstarter backer of this complete disaster.

Though, at this point, it's been a decade of absolutely hilarious drama, so I really do feel like I got my money's worth out of it even though I literally have never installed nor played any of the "betas".

[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

I purchased this game as a kid in college. Now I'm a whole adult with a family and career, while the game still has not released.

Star Citizen is a scam plain and simple. It's "stolen" thousands of dollars (probably more) at this point and has nothing to show for it but a very pretty buggy mess.

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Star Citizen will go down in history as the biggest gaming scam ever.

[–] Thatoneguyyoulove@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wanted Star Citizen to work out so badly. In 2012(ish? I don't remember exactly) when I first heard of the game I backed it because a space game where you weren't just your ship but could move around and board other ships sounded like my perfect space game. Now it looks like Starfield may fill that want perfectly. Who knows though maybe one day in the future Star Citizen will actually release.

[–] Veraxus@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I've been playing Star Citizen pretty regularly for years, and still do. While it's not progressing as quickly as I want it to, it's definitely progressing... and so long as their current funding model keeps the game evolving, I'm happy with that.

The thing that concerns me about Starfield right now is how little they've shown of flight mechanics. I'm starting to get the feeling that space flight is going to be a half-baked afterthought and atmospheric flight might not be a thing at all. We'll know soon enough, but I am still not going to let myself expect anything more than "Fallout/Elder Scrolls in Space".

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[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 5 points 2 years ago

It's just revenue, the game is never being finished.

[–] smolgumball@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think my favorite use of Star Citizen has been from folks like PolarityDnb who use it to create backdrops for ambient electronica compositions.

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[–] Finnbarr@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Yes and no. There's a sort of playable game there. But Chris Roberts is sort of infamous for his feature creep.

So more and more gets added to the game and then parts of the base code have to be rewritten to support the new additions, and then you get a 13 year development cycle with no actual end in sight. I think that the feature creep is currently under control, but with everything that's been planned, it's still going to be a couple of years before the game releases.

I am assuming that it will eventually release... Which is a large assumption at this point.

But until then, you can play a game that feels a bit like a first person shooter, and has some ship to ship combat, and some missions, and some other stuff, but isn't as fleshed out as any of those things could be if the focus was strictly on that one thing. Basically it's too many things at once to be really good at ony one of them.

[–] followthewhiterabbit@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All I want is that kinda standalone side 'campaign' which has Mark Hamill involved. How they could make that and sit on it is beyond me!

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[–] stephfinitely@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

I'm so glad I never spent any money on this game and just got a free ship with my old AMD graphics card.

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