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The mastodon and lemmy content I’m seeing feels like 90% of it comes from people who are:

  • ~30 years old or older

  • tech enthusiasts/workers

  • linux users

There’s nothing wrong with that particular demographic or anything, but it doesn’t feel like a win to me if the entire fediverse is just one big monoculture.

I wonder what it is that is keeping more diverse users away? Is picking a server/federation too complicated? Or is it that they don’t see any content that they like?

Thoughts?

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[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago
  1. Yes, in my late 30s.
  2. I was a computer scientist, but now I have done a complete 180. But I'm still a nerd at heart.
  3. Yup, I'm a Linux user.

But we have to understand that Lemmy/Kbin are still babies, they've just started. And I really believe that it will continue to grow and get better at accommodating users who are not tech nerds. But it will be an organic process.

The more Reddit gets worse (no more moderation bots, no good moderation tools from Reddit, etc.), the more people will migrate to Lemmy/Kbin. This migration will force the community to adapt and make it easier and easier for users to integrate.

[–] pfannkuchen_gesicht@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago

Hah, I fit the description perfectly. Not too sure how to take that. ☹️

[–] Sentinian@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Working aged zoomer here, it's amazing how much my generation doesn't know about computers in some aspects and how much they know in others. It seems I was born in a sweet spot when things still difficult but not completely dumbed down.

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[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

You just described the demographics of the average early tech adopter.

Old enough to understand the importance of privacy and to care about the federation aspect of the fediverse, tech savvy and nerdy enough to not be discouraged by an unfamiliar interface and still developing environment. And apparently we like Linux too.

[–] mycroft@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

"You must be new here"

We're always the first adopters.

[–] GAMER@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Gosh I feel like this guy called me out.

But then I saw the user name.

Hmmm.....

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Picking a server is complicated... And I still don't get how to get content from other servers into my main feed.

But the other thing is monitization. If you build up a decent filling on TikTock for example, they pay you. My kids friends are all chasing that.

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[–] Crudman@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm normier than the listed demographics and find the Fediverse and it's associated jargon to be inline with 4 dimensional crochet in terms of ease of use

[–] Crudman@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

To make myself clear I'd rather be confused about lemmy servers than ever, ever use Discord as a wiki

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

we are the kind to early adopt new stuff

[–] Sandakada@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Reddit began in a similar fashion, so its a positive trait for sure

[–] thelsim@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

Bah, I'm three raccoons in an overcoat.
Who.. have a steady IT job.. dang it.

[–] ZombieZookeeper@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Get off my lawn.

[–] dysseus@monero.town 8 points 2 years ago

Most people are older than 30.

[–] I_AnoN_I@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

23 year old electrician here. I'm pretty interested in dectralized tech. My first was Bitcoin

[–] acrobaticpenguin23@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Probably so. But then why are Android and Android Apps struggling for engagement? But more randoms, casuals, just a wider overall demographic will be needed for niche communities to become viable.

The communities I mainly communicated in on Reddit either don't exist, or have paltry engagement here.

This is why I am keeping my Reddit account active to make posts in these forums to invite others over here to build engagement.

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This is also me: I'm a 39 year old Ubuntu user who has been excited about the Internet since the day I first learned what a modem does, in maybe like, 1990?

So far I think Lemmy's a bit too technical for regular people to get started with the Fediverse and to figure out how to find the right communities to join in order to have content show up in their feed comparable to what they're already getting at a commercial service, which takes no effort at all to continue to scroll. Why would a normal person want to use alpha release software? We're still in the early days, we're the early adopters.

[–] Devgard@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

from my own experience, that's definitely the case for Mastodon, except people are 40 and up.

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[–] ted_pikul@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I fit the profile

[–] zikk_transport2@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

2* y.o. Linux user & sysadmin/sre/devops/younameit checking in.

I am still gonna use reddit for porn only, using patched Reddit app (by Revanced manager). 😂

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[–] Malzod@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Definitely the server federation thing is overwhelming. I don't even know what that is. I was told Lemmy.world is the alternative Reddit.

[–] jflorez@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

This is me 46 *nix user, nerd

[–] ichigo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I feel it's complicated for the non-tech users but interestingly I have started to see some folks coming to Lemmy because I (a tech friend) started using it and advertising to them. I think it's these early adopters who play a major role in bringing the non-tech folks and people from other diverse culture.

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[–] Gerula@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I'm 3 out of 3. Sorry I don't have a good answer for you.

My unfounded guess is that this demographic has seen the internet at it's beginings and is more willing to put up with the lack of bling and willing to discover/ build things from the ground up, just like the Forums of the Old in the mythological era were done. No corporations, no low effort rewards, no likes/ karma/ whatever. You have to actually get involved for lemmy to live.

[–] GRiMtox@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't use Linux, but other than that...

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[–] ripjackie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

24 yr old tech worker / Linux user checking in! I'm not old yet but I've got the spirit!

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[–] samokosik@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I am around 20 and use lemmy, but I agree my friends need instagram

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