I am trying to figure out how this will do anything but make a "threads" and a "rest of the fediverse" setup, just like we have now. Nothing will change, and this will be for the best. Meta will make a shitty version of fediverse to rival their own shitty facebook, and the rest of us will be happier for it.
this post was submitted on 06 Jul 2023
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I, personally, do not want to be defederated from Threads. I want to follow some of the key news orgs and political figures who haven’t made the move over to Mastodon. For me, it can be the best of both worlds. I can get the content I want and maintain the level of privacy that I want.
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Meta has the best engineers in the world
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA....oh that's rich. Do you actually believe this?
Who do you believe are the best engineers in the world and where do they work?
Eh. They have really good engineers. They just work for a POS company that does some bullshit
Good engineers and best in the world are not equal.
I get all the hate for meta and zuck, and I agree that they would only do so for their own commercial benefit, but I don’t think we should defederate without seeing what federating means. Everyone here is instinctively panicking and running around like headless chickens without seeing what it would actually entail.
Threads is like mastodon. If federating with threads only means that threads users can participate in lemmy, I see that as an advantage for us.
If we were a mastodon instance, this conversation would be very different.
What is Signal?
Signal is an encrypted messaging app that got popular during the whole Whatsapp privacy fiasco few years ago.
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If an instance does off because Meta won't defederates from it, then it probably would have died off anyway.
If you don't federate with them, people will simply just go there instead of here because a larger user base.
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Imagine what the fediverse will be like when 90 year old daisy gets on it.
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Why would the most active lemmings stay on meta owned and controlled instances?
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Meta or any other big player that looks to ride on the fediverse space ultimately gets nothing that's not already available publicly, and can't push their ads or data-scraping apps on the users of the fedi. In effect they'll either play nice and maybe a few people interact between them, or they don't and things continue as they are today. There have been a couple posts out there of the history with Google/XMPP and now the statement by Mastodon. Private hosting of open protocols has always been a threat to the big players. In the end with the Google affair, XMPP still exists, I used to use it for my household chat, but found other options like RocketChat and now NextCloud Talk more to my taste and easier to maintain. Meta can't kill the ActivityPub system, only the users walking away from it can do that, or, I guess ISPs if they did some sort of shady blocking en-masse but that's another matter all together.
I have no use for Meta in any of their forms, and would certainly push others to use the OG version of things that doesn't scrape all their data to sell them the latest bullshit they don't need, but there's little reason to fear them either.