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MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
What is a Tankie?
Alternatively, a detailed blog post about Tankies.
(caution of biased source)
Basic Rules:
Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.
Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.
Off-topic Discussion — Do not discuss unrelated topics to the point of derailing the thread. Stay focused on the direct content of the post as opposed to arguing.
You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
If I remember correctly, I had joined at a similar time. Not this account though, this one is fairly new. But I ended up going for Blahaj Zone and Beehaw. I went back and forth between the two, but in the end I think both of these were the right choice. The biggest issue I have with the latter is... It's missing some pretty big federation, like Lemmy.World notably, and that's kind of an issue for me. It makes the "all" timeline really quiet and kind of dull.
In the end, I think Blahaj is my home for many reasons, but I do remember Beehaw being quite recommended back then. It's a great community and I really do enjoy their principles, in terms of rules and everything. When I was looking for what community to join, and people talking about it on Reddit, there was a bunch of, it doesn't really matter, which is bullshit, it actually really does matter, in my opinion, but, uh, yeah. Beehaw came up enough for me to go there on my first account.
As for the drama, I have missed out on all of it. Like, people are talking about Hexbear, I have no idea what happened with that. In terms of drama, all I personally remember was the kind of like big panic over the threadiverse because of the mass influx from Reddit users, which I am on one of but that's pretty much it. That being said, I personally do remember that most people had already some kind of apprehension towards Lemmy.ml. At least in my corner. Lemmygrad I've only learned of recently.
Yes
I disagree with this, I feel like people tend to rewrite history in their brains, especially with this one, since it has the 2023 date.
e.g. https://web.archive.org/web/20230624100232/lemmy.ml/c/worldnews
Looks like lemmy.ml was a relatively normal place for a while before hexbear tried to refederate with the fediverse, that was a torrent of diarrhea, yes, but they quieted down a while after. The major turning point was when hamas attacked Israel on Oct 7th that year and everything Israel has done ever since. Then that infighting took over and destroyed any rational discourse in lemmy.ml.
I've seen this happen with subreddits too also with the Gaza topic. It is the best way to nuke any lefty community.
It is the best way to nuke any lefty community.
How, exactly?
Top to bottom single topic. Nothing else matters, nothing else discussed, nothing else happens, no thought, just despair, hate and circlejerk in what used to be ideologically diverse communities with some inherent contrarianism and debate.
That's... what? Can you point toward a non-tankie triad Lemmy community where this has happened?
Last time I bothered to check, worldnews looked like that on .ml, also happened to r/Chomsky.
"Tankie triad" refers to Lemmy.ml, Hexbear and Lemmygrad. I was asking if there are Fediverse communities not on these instances that went through this. My instance is defederated from the triad so I can't verify what you're saying otherwise. If it's such a widespread problem, there should be communities on, say, dbzer0 where the same thing happened.
There were places around the election getting flooded with reasons why Kamala was somehow worse than Trump at all the thing he said he'd do. I think one or two news communities had revolts.
Sorry, I only know the piracy community in dbzer0.
I personally don't like using left-right terminology because it doesn't have a place in my country.
But leftists tend to die due to purity. If you're not 100 percent on board with current thing, then you're out.