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[–] take_five_moments@hexbear.net 74 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)
[–] Chump@hexbear.net 23 points 3 days ago

Great job :)

[–] OnceUponATimeInWeHo@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Huge accomplishment! 16 months here, it gets easier comrade!

[–] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago

Proud of you!

[–] SeitanicMechanic@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

Well done, comrade.

[–] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 57 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Alcoholism Reaching All-Time Lows in Declining American Empire

Lyudmila Pavlyuchenkova | Pravda North America

Once 2/3 of the population, alcoholics now make up a mere simple majority of the US population. This supposed tragedy for the alcohol industry comes not off the back of an effective public health initiative, but instead due to the immiseration of the American youth.

As older Americans die off due to age, younger Americans simply cannot afford to take their place in the economy of self-harm.

"Literally half of my local grocery store is filled with overpriced alcoholic versions of drinks primarily marketed to children. Every other end cap is spiked energy drinks, hard lemonade, twisted iced tea. Alcoholic Capri Sun and whatever Hard Kombucha is. Man, I can't even afford Keystone Light," said local man Haywood Jablome.

[–] Biggay@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago

God i fucking love name gags like this

[–] Monstertruckenjoyer@hexbear.net 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm keeping the numbers up all on my own mothafuckas

[–] Rey_McSriff@hexbear.net 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Cracking open a six pack tonight to do my part

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 41 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Atomization and immiseration are more effective than any temperance movement.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago

counterpoint: that george thorogood song

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Kids today would rather vape and smoke the devil's lettuce. Shame.

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Alcohol is way worse than weed

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 40 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It is, I'm an alcoholic in recovery and it almost killed me. I binge drink for the better part of like 6 years, it's miserable.

Same here. Stay strong.

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago

I've worked in Hospitality since being a teenager, I'm 40 now.

The obligatory pint after shift and getting bought drinks for so long as definitely made me a functional alkie.

Stay strong my dude. I can't shake the monkey off my back

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I wonder why it is way more socially acceptable. I feel like it's more complicated than just the racism part

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can't grow liquor with a grow lamp in the comfort of your own home tax-free

[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago

You kinda can though. I've made homemade apple wine before, and distilling from that is easy enough.

[–] copandballtorture@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Decades of anti drug propaganda. Smoke is stinky. Illegal until very recently. Drinking has a lot more marketing money behind it

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago

Also weed is not legal federally and employers are still allowed to discriminate against you for using it.

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[–] Des@hexbear.net 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (12 children)

honestly there's just better buzzes out there with less side effects, especially for social fun

  • cannabis (not quite the same, but great social lubricant if everyone starts sober and gets high together)

  • kratom (more medical utility but can be fun for outdoor adventures in groups. starts as a stim and ends with some sleepiness, so plan properly) (DISCLAIMER: not recommended for experimentation but has current and historical uses as an alcohol alternative) for more info check out layla's guide

  • kava (basically IRL synthahol from star trek. dials right in to the 1-2 drink buzz with no risk of further. downside is reverse tolerance and doesn't work for everyone)

  • some kind of GABA-B substance (more risky since most are research chems (F-phenibut comes to mind), often very long lasting, but all the inhibition of alcohol without being drunk and hard to black out on unlike GHB agonists).

(all have a risk of addiction as any substance but comedowns/withdrawals are significantly less then alcohol, as well as not being potentially lethal. also OD risk is either physically impossible or extremely difficult)

[–] BigWeed@hexbear.net 38 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (12 children)

kratom

I don't know how to say this nicely. Don't do kratom unless you're already an opioid addict and you need to come off. It's not a safe drug to experiment with recreationally because it's so easy to get addicted to. I'm a heavy drug user and promote experimenting with drugs except for opioids (and kratom) because of how many people I've seen absolutely ruin their lives on it.

[–] Mog_Pharou@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago

This is very sensationalist

[–] Des@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

i know vastly more people that use kratom occasionally and responsibly then don't. not everyone has that spark inside that lights up when mu receptors are tripped. just because we have it doesn't apply to everyone.

much of the recent media blitz against kratom is due to the kratom lobby's deal with RFK jr to ban 7-OH in exchange for saving leaf kratom. not sure if this is going to work.

increase in addiction to "kratom" is mostly due to ease of access to 7-OH and highly potent liquid concentrates at gas stations. in high doses, kratom's natural antagonists are overwhelmed by the partial opioid agonists (or in the case of 7-OH, full agonists). thus, it behaves more like a classical opioid. and since the average person's first exposure to kratom these days is potent concentrate shots, they can more easily become physically addicted.

occasional use of leaf (or full spectrum concentrates) has low risk of physical addiction. leaf at less then 1-2 g a day could take months to develop physical addiction.

i used kratom to get off stronger opioids, and to prevent cravings or a relapse. for .50 a day it was a fine bargin to make. all my plugs disappeared, i fell away from the scene entirely, and can now taper slowly at my leisure.

but it is vastly more difficult to become instantly addicted off kratom because it's short acting, partial agonism, and delta action. too much and it's like you've taken Salvia, right down to the "flushing" effect, dizziness, and disassociation. it's like a built in braking system. also nearly impossible to OD.

not sure how this is ruining lives. there will always be exceptions. compared to every other opioid out there, it is the safest and best tolerated and that's an absolute scientific fact

[–] BigWeed@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I definitely think it should be legal and accessible because it's a valuable tool for people on opioids. I don't think we have a kratom epidemic. But in a conversation about alcohol alternatives with people who aren't as informed about drug experimentation, I'd voice that kratom as a lot more potential consequences from say kava, cannabis, etc.

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[–] regul@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Kava tastes like very bitter dirt, unfortunately.

There are a few kava bars in town and I tried one of their expensive kava cocktails and oh my god it still tasted like fucking dirt.

[–] gayspacemarxist@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I kinda like how kava tastes, but my other favorite drink (unsweetned smoked yerba mate) also tastes like grass so maybe I just like muddy flavor

[–] Kinokoloko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago

What up fellow earthy drink enjoyer lol I will tolerate all kinds of gross tastes if they give me the right kinda buzz

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[–] Vingst@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago (4 children)

There are better buzzes. Exercise, eating right, volunteering, hobbies.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Why not both? Get a good workout in and work up a good body high, then take a THC gummy faded

That's how I incentivize myself to get to the gym lol

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[–] jack@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago

Honestly a very good thing, heavy alcohol consumption is a terrible social ill

[–] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Glad I'm not wasting my life on that shit anymore. I've been addicted to many things, and alcohol would make me waste away worse than fentanyl. I'd just grab a fifth (or two or three) and just drink until I passed out. And I'd get so depressed when I drank, it wasn't even fun, I'd get drunk and instantly want to kill myself and often times start hurting myself in some way. I'd go days without eating because I was too drunk to remember I was hungry, and constantly nauseous from consuming nothing but vodka. I didn't remember anything I ever did, I'd just forget absolutely everything.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You sound just like me when I used to drink. There was a point in my addiction I weighed only 140lbs, was malnourished, subsiding off liquor and when the hunger pangs got too extreme microwaveable rice.

Today I'm a fat guy and I actually eat food sober.

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[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago

High alcohol consumption is a recession indicator, so this must be good for the economy.

[–] lowspeedchase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 days ago

If we could just fast-track green lounges that would be great, thanks.

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago

Colon cancer runs in my family, no thank you lol.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

My alcohol consumption is way down from 10-15 years ago. Beer occasionally, hard liquor and wine is at this point a special event thing. Doesn’t help that, being a taller/larger person, it takes a shit ton of liquor to get me buzzed and I ended up feeling shitty before I’m intoxicated.

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago

I’m part of that statistic and proud of it.

Yeah I've been cutting back a bit lately so that tracks

[–] upmysleeves@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago

more good news screm-cool

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago

:sicko-straight-edge:

[–] darkmode@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago

idk how anyone gets shit done drinking more often than weekends and parties. I get too eepy the next day limmy-awake

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