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[–] welcome_back@hexbear.net 82 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Their Leninist democratic centralism

Our party whip

[–] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 53 points 6 days ago

The difference is that demcent is binding and doesn't permit "rotating villain" style bullshit which liberals need to prevent good things from happening.

A party whip can only be used to ensure lethal aid is sent and wages never rise! the-democrat

[–] alexei_1917@hexbear.net 34 points 6 days ago

"Ooh, scary Democratic Centralism! You can't possibly be actually suggesting to run a serious modern political party that way!"

"DemCen is an excellent strategy! Sounds like you don't read enough Lenin, buddy. Need a source to read his stuff from? I can get you that, and a general communist reading list, if that's why you don't understand his methods."

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 58 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

My "anyone who refers to communists primarily as bolsheviks is probably a nazi" rule continues to hold water

Many such cases in Poland.

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 66 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] uSSRI@hexbear.net 46 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But was the cost worth it? All those dead Romanovs, going to space in 30 years, losing serf-er dude status...

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 25 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Was the revolution which allowed them to defeat Nazi Germany and their own genocide worth it without Pizza Hut?

[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

On the one hand we have the salvation of mankind and every sentient being. One the other hand we have Pizza hut. I think comrade Gorbachev should take this one.

[–] uSSRI@hexbear.net 8 points 6 days ago

I dunno but I haven't played Ms. Pac-Man in any former Soviet nation

[–] miz@hexbear.net 65 points 6 days ago

AREN'T YOU SCARED, PROLE WHO IS BARELY SUBISTING? AREN'T YOU SCAAAAAARED OF THE BALD MAN WITH MOUSTACHE TAKING AWAY YOUR RIGHT TO WASTE AWAY AS CAPITAL SHITS IN YOUR MOUTH?

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 55 points 6 days ago

Unfortunately, it's just more red-baiting scaremongering from the Torygraph.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 62 points 6 days ago

Listen to that person Corbyn. Listen to them!

[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 62 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They tried to tell us that socialism was bad and that it could never work. Now they are on the brink of collapse and where did that bring them?

back-to-me

[–] alexei_1917@hexbear.net 29 points 6 days ago

"You could not prevent your inevitable failure, and where did that bring you? Back to me."

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 39 points 6 days ago

Don’t threatened me with a good time, Torygraph.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 36 points 6 days ago

bad advice. asiatic and mendacious Lenin only lead a movement which unlocked intellectual and productive forces to help an enslaved people break their chains, defeat an attempt by their industrial neighbors to exterminate them, and build scientific wonders that reached other planets before any one else.

Corbyn should model himself after honest-faced Westoidian saxophonist and welfare-gutting sex predator, Bill Clinton.

[–] alexei_1917@hexbear.net 38 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Close enough. Welcome back, Lenin.

Of course it would be you. It would always be you. Only you.

(Leninism works. Nothing else we've tried ever actually wins the class struggle for the workers. Of course it would always come down to needing another Bolshevik Party.)

[–] jack@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago

Nothing else we've tried ever actually wins the class struggle for the workers.

The facts are the facts

[–] Finger@hexbear.net 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

no more half measures walter

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago

lenin-heisenberg Jeremy, run!

[–] mayakovsky@hexbear.net 36 points 6 days ago
[–] iByteABit@hexbear.net 36 points 6 days ago
[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 31 points 6 days ago
[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 23 points 6 days ago

Which one of you did this?

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 22 points 6 days ago
[–] jack@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago
[–] FettermansFinalStroke@hexbear.net 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don’t know enough about UK politics, is Corbyn on that power level? I know he’s been saying the right things with regards to Gaza.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 45 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Not really. He had a genuine loyalty to the labour party that none of the current leadership ever had. Like if instead of ratfucking him they'd told him it would be good for labour if he fell on the sword, he might have done it literally. But he was also always on the very far left of the party, and advocated on multiple occasions to open the party up to more radical policies and membership.

Corbyn is as good as you're ever gonna get in bourgeois parliamentary democracy, and he's been actively working politically for the left for longer than most people here have been alive, and for that he deserves credit. But he's not Lenin.

Makes sense, thanks

[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

He's not, but on foreign policy he's not far off — which is why they burned everything to the ground just to get rid of him. The imperialist line is the one you simply cannot cross in the UK political system.

(Edit - to add more) His biggest weakness is that he comes out of the Bennite tradition i.e. he sees suffrage as the great victory of the labour movement in the UK, and social gains having flowed from workers having the VOTE. However, one does wonder how his position might have evolved. Many of his followers (hello) started off as Bennites and were pushed way to the left of that after witnessing what happened during his tenure.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 16 points 6 days ago