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i absolutely hate how the modern web just fails to load if one has javascript turned off. i, as a user, should be able to switch off javascript and have the site work exactly as it does with javascript turned on. it's not a hard concept, people.

but you ask candidates to explain "graceful degradation" and they'll sit and look at you with a blank stare.

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[–] xep@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago

Some surely know, they just don't care.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nonono, the JS does the money thing before you get your content fix. It's by design.

[–] memfree@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

This is correct. Web dev is told to make sure ads load before content. They don't want users that don't generate profits.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

They also continually forget that you can't do frontend only validation for things.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

It is substantially harder to make a modern website work without JavaScript. Not impossible, but substantially harder. HTML forms are not good at doing most things. Plus, a full page refresh on nearly any button click would be a bad experience.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

i run with scripts disabled by default. it gets annoying at times, but most sites and pages i go to work fine. a few are true 'apps' and are whitelisted. random sites that don't work i just search for an alternative source if i really want to read it. i have separate browser installs with fewer restrictions that i use specifically for certain things (like webmail or the little online shopping i do).

the few web sites that i am responsible for... all work without scripts. many of the visitors i care about have shitty internet, so i don't want massive js or css bundles in there or tons of unoptimized graphics or media.

[–] chonkyninja@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Fucking Reddit and their shite navigation controller that shits the bed when you zoom in.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Ibuild pretty feature heavy CMS type sites, and though I always try to go HTML only first (I'm quite old school still), it's almost impossible to escape JavaScript

Having said that, the entire "my website won't even show anything on the landing page without JavaScript" should die a quick death already

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