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Kobe Bryant dedicated all his waking hours to basketball, and I don’t think there’s a lot of people saying that Kobe Bryant shouldn’t have worked as hard as he did.
Yeah, but he was working to achieve something for himself and not to make some parasite richer.
I thought "996" meant 9 hours on Monday, 9 hours on Tuesday, 6 hours on Wednesday, then a 4-day weekend.
That sounds pretty sweet.
I kept pushing my previous employer for a midnight-8pm Saturday, and a 4AM-midnight Sunday shift, but couldn't get them to approve it. 40 hours a week, 5-days off.
Couldn't get them to approve it.
Embracing? This is been the reality for many startups for a long time. Same with many game devs and animation studios too. Many technical jobs grind their staff despite being the most profitable industries. It is almost like the more money you make, the more you abuse your staff.
Would you like to work nearly double the standard 40-hour week?
Maybe in the USA. It is 37.5h where I am.
known as “996,” or 9 am to 9 pm, six days a week. In other words, it’s a 72-hour work week.
Fuck off.
Sign up to that shit and you are part of the problem. Fuck that.
People making 400k... Sure kinda makes sense for a few years but they want to every 150k worker to do the same and thats what this shill slop is about
Every time I'm on Lemmy someone scoffs at many times the most I've ever made in a year. I make about 30-35k a year. 😂
known as “996,” or 9 am to 9 pm, six days a week. In other words, it’s a 72-hour work week
Tl;dr
fuck that
So many studies say this will lead to far less productivity for anything remotely knowledge work, especially over a long period.
Meanwhile smarter companies are going to a 4 day work week. https://www.investopedia.com/four-daywork-week-study-success-11777896
It honestly blows my mind how these "leaders" get paid billions of dollars to run their companies into the ground because they have no fucking clue how real humans operate.
Nothing to do with productivity. It's all about small dick energy CEOs wanting to validate and underline their self-perceived superior status. "How dare the little people work as little time as me?"
So many studies say this will lead to far less productivity for ~~anything~~ remote~~ly knowledge~~ work, especially over a long period.
How an MBA read this.
why are they working so much, they don't do anything
The Americans and their piss poor labor laws, They like working beyond the point of diminishing return.
The founders can do all the 996 they want, but if they want to have their employees do the same, they should offer a fair share of the company at least.
Sorry, best we can do is offer a .00001% stake and pretend like it’s your ticket to early retirement.
You are not kidding. I have some experience with startup stock options and... it's not pretty.
Before anyone retorts with remarks about "phantom stock" and other similar offers, I want you to do some math.
Figure out what the 'strike price' of that stock is likely to be when it matures, and calculate what the payout will be. Then figure out capital gains tax and subtract that. Divide what's left over by the amount of unpaid overtime (hours in excess of 40 a week) you're going to put in for the maturation window. Lastly, compare these figures to other testimonials in your field, and also, look up typical yearly bonus figures for more mature companies. You're going to see that it's not a lot of cash for the extra time, that it's nowhere near your base pay rate, and more established companies are going to do a better job of compensating folks for less effort. You may even find that with a 996 grind-set, it might pay out less than taking a second job at retail.
I can also warn you that if the company sells instead of going IPO, you may get a much smaller payout than all that. I was in a situation where they threw the advertised strike price in the trash, and negotiated a sale of everyone's stock to the buying company for much, much less.
That's ok, they can promise more with no intention of ever paying it because there's a special privileged 'preferred' stock that the bigger investors and executives get that's prioritized for sales and dividends before anyone else's.
I avoided this issue by embracing the completely non-controversial "become a contractor" work schedule. When you're a temp they specifically want you NOT to work overtime without prior authorization - because they have to pay for it. And as a software dev I was always treated identically with employees, except for a few special things like some company meetings and offsite events - which I didn't want to attend anyway. And I got paid almost twice as much hourly than I would as an employee. Sure, I had to buy my own health insurance and didn't get paid time off, but when you double your salary those are non-issues. But what about job security? LOL what about layoffs? My job security was that there are always contract jobs everywhere.
Any company that wants me to work a “996“ can fuck ALLLLLLLLLL the way off
People are stupid, they have whole nature around them, but they are killing it to create computers and escape the planet.
That's sad.
Good, keep those freaks away from the rest of us.
Silicon Valley Workforces Embracing Controversial ‘Kill The Asshole CEOs’ Strategy
As long as I get paid 2.5x my 40hr pay sure. Otherwise my fellow unionized tech bros are collectively saying "go fuck yourself"
If I was in my 20’s I’d have thought about that 2.5x offer. Now that I’m in my 40’s I can say i wouldn’t even do it for 5x. You can’t buy back missed time, no matter how much money you have.
Part of me says that I’d do it for 20x… but I’d just end up quitting in a few months, take my money and retire early.
After 6 months you'd have enough to retire to Vietnam. Another 6 and you'd have enough to pay yourself a low salary forever.
Another 6 and you'd fund a small house in a smaller town where you can retire, and another 6 and you'd be dead from stress.
I’ll agree to it, but best I can do is 2 hours a day dawg
That sounds like a good way to have your entire workforce quit on you...
It's a startup, the goal is to get people who work for vaporous promises of future wealth So you squeeze them as hard as you can imagine then the company collapse and you take their work and sell it to private equity aka "angels"
vomits in trashcan
That counts as your break. 🤨
I would work that many hours a week as long as I got paid +$1 million a year. Otherwise, it would just make more sense to start my own business.
If you're going to work that hard to make some rich guy richer, why wouldn't you do that for yourself?
I had that revelation 30 years ago, and I've been mostly self-employed since. Even in those times when I wasn't, I was still working for my own benefit, not anyone else's. Those jobs didn't last long. I can only work for myself. I'm a good boss, I get away with everything.
Fuck right off.
Actually saying that they want slave labor is considered bad public relations.
Our product will make all jobs obsolete. That's why we need to work our employees to death making it!
I wouldn't do it for money... I'd do it for a SHITLOAD of money (and then collect unemployment once the bubble bursts, as a soft-retirement)
Yes, work yourself to death for the profits of the oligarchy, you morons. See what thanks you get.
