This is seriously a hot take
this post was submitted on 23 Jul 2025
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I think the whole works part is the most important part, Linux can be janky (and by that I mean obsolete information and deprecated or outdated packages are often recommended and there are a thousand different ways to do anything with only one of them actually working (don't have an aneurysm)) on the best of days, If something just works you can change what you want later.
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Ubuntu is just Debian with extra steps.... and snaps
Which is reason enough to go with Debian (I have an unreasonable issue with snaps).
yeah, snaps.... they should have just gone with appimage I don't like them either, but at least we can all settle on one bag of pain.
Use whatever the fuck you want, you fucking weirdo cultists.
This. I'd better use windows then listen to another round of debate Ubuntu vs Arch..
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I use arch btw
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Debian since 1998. No reason to change.
that should be their mission statement.
Use Debian. No good reason to change.
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This is crazy. You shouldnβt use Ubuntu for anything desktop related. Thereβs nothing vanilla about vanilla Ubuntu.
(Custom Gnome extensions, patches on top of Gnome, custom sandbox packages that donβt always work, custom apt that refuses to install the real packages in place of snaps, paywalled security patches, should I keep going?)
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Ubuntu sucks
You choose the worst option
It's not that bad but I feel like fedora's probably a better option
Installed 24.04 this week. On the second day my graphical interface was completely borked. Bare in mind I only installed the usual things I need like neovim, appimage support, compilers, etc.
I've used the same installation of Arch, Fedora and Suse on different machines for years in a row without an issue
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anything but Ubuntu tbh.
I won't use Ubuntu Desktop now, but I used it for 6 years: 16 to 22, and loved it for many reasons. I left it for two reasons:
- Snaps
- Trying to get bridged networking going for VMs in Boxes ended up wrecking my network settings and I couldn't get them back to normal. With more expertise I could have probably fixed it, but I realised it's too easy to do things that I can't fix.
So, I went to NixOS for the declarative setup. It's not always easy especially for niche cases , but at least I always have a working backup. Yes, there are other options, but I like NixOS so I plan to stick with it for now.
My kids use Bazzite and I like that too.
If you're a programmer: NixOS.
Define your OS config, which programs to install, and dotfiles in one repo. Install a fresh OS, pull in the repo (nix-shell -p git, because NixOS doesn't come with git >_> ) and run the command to install the whole thing (sudo nixos-rebuild switch --flake .#wodan for me. wodan is just the name of a config - I have multiple all combines into one repo, so I can share configuration between machines).
Took me 17 minutes to set up my laptop exactly the same as my Desktop. Same configuration, applications, and OS settings. It's so fucking nice.
With Windows, that used to take 2 days to download and install everything manually.
Only downside: You'll need to learn Nix-the-language, nix-the-os, and nix-the-terminal-program, which took about a month of deeply digging into the Vimjoyer and LibrePhoenix channels.
Just checked my Mint. Why Cinnamon uses so much VRAM? I have over 1GB idle, without anything running. In my Windows i usually have 400Mb with all things closed.
I remember this site
https://www.linuxatemyram.com/
But honestly, although I can't check it, 1GB idle is still far more ram than what I get idle, so you might have some weird program auto-starting and actually eating your ram.
RAM is ok, i have plenty of it. VRAM (Video RAM) is the problem. The RAM of the GPU, used for showing graphics, UI etc.
Oof sorry my bad lol
Um, acktually some of us went from vanilla Debian to Nobara to vanilla Debian.
Kubuntu for modern systems, Xubuntu for older systems, Lubuntu for older, low-end systems with limited RAM, Ubuntu server for headless servers.
Stay mad, Ubuntu haters.
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Fedora on the right tbh. Even when you chill and get wisdom Canonical and Snap are just a bit too far.
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I use fedora because I dont feel like waiting 6 years for new features ;P
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