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I've pulled together an article that brings together two very different thinkers talking about issues of relevance to the Prime Minister's reform of the civil service.

https://open.substack.com/pub/billhulet/p/carneys-quest-to-reform-the-bureaucracy?r=4ot1q2&showWelcomeOnShare=true

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[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Here's a question: if it's so easy to find 15% waste or BS jobs in every government department, then why not keep funding on the same trajectory, and leverage these apparently obvious paths to efficiency to drastically improve the quality of programs and services?

Why is the 'solution' seemingly always to cut funding?

[–] wampus@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago

Eh. Bullshit jobs exist, no doubt. But the points mentioned in the article seem a bit askew -- even just the consultanty-vibe saying consultants are usually bullshit seems a bit off, though amusing.

I doubt the federal govt will be able to realistically cut just bullshit jobs / structure job cuts in an efficient way. I've spoken to managers in the public service before, and they've whined that it takes like 2 years to fire someone who's not doing their job, with all the hoops that are required due to the union etc. I'm starting to wonder if Carney's govt will even last that long.

[–] foxglove@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This sounds a bit related to David Graeber's concept of "Bullshit Jobs".

[–] DriftingLynx@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

More than just a bit.

The article opens with:

I just finished reading the late David Graeber’s book Bullshit Jobs and it’s got me thinking about the reforms to the civil service that Prime Minister Carney has been promising.

[–] Varen21Sirtek69@discuss.online -4 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

If you cannot name your job in one word - maybe 2 if you're lucky, You have a bullshit job. (Ie pilot, cop, engineer, teacher, doctor). Actually typing out "Senior Director of Enterprise Accomplishment Developer Engagement" on LinkedIn is LOL.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Every fast food worker.

Every call center worker.

The vast majority of retail employees.

The entire TSA.

A ton of middle managers and c-suite.

Everyone who works with crypto.

Honestly, there are a ton of tertiary service jobs that people would just do themselves if they had the time. (Cleaners, recruiters, travel agents, realtors, "landlords", most restaurants, tax accountants, gym businesses)

Of course, all of this requires actually being capable of envisioning a world where people aren't expected to waste their own time.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Marine Hydraulic technician/ Ship repair mechanic. Ptfo with that bullshit.

[–] Varen21Sirtek69@discuss.online -3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

So "mechanic" is the actual answer. Good job

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

Oh, so you're that sort of ignorant.